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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) review: this creative workstation is a MacBook Pro beater – at a third the price
12:26 pm | August 30, 2023

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Two Minute Review

Asus’ Vivobook Pro 16X OLED is a complicated range that isn't afraid to use the best components and play to their strengths, even if it makes messaging complicated for a consumer. 

The 2023 Vivobook Pro 16X OLED I’m covering here is a 16-inch creative workstation with a 13th gen Intel based processor that prioritises performance over battery life.

The 2022 version, however, which is still sold alongside the current update, uses an AMD processor and a slightly different 4K display that isn’t particularly powerful, but which will net you over 10 hours of battery during light work tasks.

What these devices have in common is that neither have much concern for conforming to an ultra-portable thin and light form factor. Admittedly, the Vivobook weighs a very manageable 1.9kg, but at 2.2cm thick it’s half a centimetre thicker than devices like the MacBook Pro 16 and this combines with the lightweight plastic keyboard surround to give it a decidedly gaming-laptop look. 

The powerful components on offer here may be more than capable of smoothly firing up your favourite games after work, but the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED is designed for work – a fact highlighted by the bundled Windows 11 Pro OS and Studio Driver pre-installed on the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 GPU. 

The Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) has an impressively powerful (and power hungry) 105W, 24 core Intel Core i9-13980HX CPU that can boost to 5.6GHz for results that will considerably outpace a top spec Apple MacBook Pro 16 (M2 Max) and often doubles the results of the 2022 AMD based Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2022). This is perfect for creatives that need their machines to do more, but it combines with the discrete graphics to draw a lot of power. This means battery life is only around 4.5 hours during light work tasks — A deal breaker for those that need to work on battery. 

Supporting these powerful components is an impressive 16-inch, 120Hz, OLED display that competes with the best OLED screens available on any laptop. This larger 3200 x 2000 pixel display also has a peak 600 nit brightness, Vesa DisplayHDR True Black 600, 100 percent DCI-P3 colour validated by Pantone and an ultra-fast 0.2ms response rate. 

The Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) is a different beast to the on-the-go work offering of the MacBook Pro 16, but when you get a more powerful laptop with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD slot for $1,800 /  £1,699.99 / AU$3,399, it’s a pretty compelling alternative. 

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions (Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions (Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Price and availability

  • $2,000 / £1,700 / AU$3,399
  • Available now
  • Available in the US, UK and AU

The Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED is available in the US, UK and Australia right now with a few different variations offered in different regions. 

The 2023 Vivobook Pro 16X OLED comes with a 3K 120Hz OLED panel and shouldn’t be confused with the 2022 Vivobook Pro 16X OLED devices that have Intel 12th gen or AMD 5000 series processors. All these devices are being sold in some markets side-by-side, but while they might be priced similarly enough they can be very different offerings. 

The Intel based Vivobook Pro 16X OLED tested here features a 13th Gen i9- i9-13980HX CPU, 32GB RAM and a Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 GPU for $2,000 / £1,700 / AU$3,399. 

  • Price score: 4.5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Specs

The Vivobook Pro I was sent to review is listed below. There are earlier generations still available to buy and some regions offer 6000 series AMD alternatives. Some regions will also offer a few different GPU configurations. 

  • Specs score: 5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Design

Asus laptop on table

(Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
  • Pro OLED screen
  • Powerful components
  • Good port selection

The design of the Vivobook Pro 16X might seem a little counterintuitive at first. Its chassis is made largely out of plastic rather than the usual high-end unibody aluminium you might expect on a premium work device and the keyboard features a fluro-orange escape key and highlighted command keys that you’d usually only see on gaming laptops. 

If that wasn’t enough there’s also fluorescent rubber feet and a thicker-than-ultrabook 2.2cm profile with gaming styled air-vents, a sci-fi dog tag badge and and a hinge cutaway that mean this laptop looks more like a gaming laptop than many gaming laptops

Fortunately, it’s subtle enough that you could easily still pull it off in a work setting and the lightweight chassis and bolstered cooling mean you can easily push into demanding creative tasks without any issues. 

The screen is undoubtedly the standout attraction as far as the design goes, offering a 16-inch 3.2K OLED panel that is capable of a 600 peak brightness. This combination of OLED blacks and a brighter-than-usual screen make this display on offer one of the best we’ve ever seen on a laptop. 

The screen also offers Pantone Validated full DCI-P3 color and a Delta-E of less than 2 to make it the perfect laptop for video editing, using it as a photo editing laptop, or any other creative color work. It also comes with Dolby Vision HDR that’ll allow you to playback media in vivid HDR and the 120Hz refresh rate and low latency 0.2ms response rate means games and other moving media will appear smoother and more immediate.

Asus includes DialPad functionality on the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED’s trackpad, allowing you to quickly change a wide array of settings in creative applications. It’s also got a fingerprint sensor, number pad, physical webcam shield, and a wide array of interface options including; Ethernet, HDMI and an SD Card slot, to ensure you can conveniently work in a range of formats.  

The Harmon Kardon designed speakers are Dolby Atmos compatible and compliment the impressive screen, and Asus has harnessed the new AI capabilities of this 13th gen Intel chip to offer onboard AI background noise cancellation for web meeting audio, and can blur backgrounds and change focus settings for video.

  • Design score: 4.5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Performance

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

(Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
  • Excellent CPU performance
  • Solid GPU performance
Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED: Benchmarks

Here's how the Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) performed in our suite of benchmark tests:

3DMark: Port Royal: 5,538; Time Spy Extreme: 4,989; Time Spy: 10,356;
GeekBench 5: 2,115 (single-core); 18,934 (multi-core)
Cinebench R23 Multi-core:
28,443 points
Cyberpunk 2077 (1080p, Ultra): 90.77 fps;
RDR2 (1080p, Ultra): 144.94 fps;
Crystal DiskMark 8 (Read/ Write):
3,952/2,957 MB/s
PCMark 10 (Home Test): 7,781 points
Battery Life (TechRadar movie test): 4 hours, 35 minutes

Performance is a standout feature of the Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023). The Vivobook Pro 16X OLED has an impressive 105W, 24 core Intel Core i9-13980HX CPU that can boost to 5.6GHz and can push between 25 and 90 percent performance bumps over the M2 Max – A pretty serious performance achievement in a similarly sized laptop.

The 4060 on the model tested is also capable of graphical benchmark performance 28 percent more than a top-spec MacBook Pro 16 on Geekbench 5 OpenCL benchmark and can almost double the Apple unit’s Sid Meier's: Civilization VI frame rates.

This graphical performance is also roughly double what I had on file for the ASUS Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2022) with a Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 Ti across a range of gaming and synthetic benchmarks. A performance jump that makes it a very different offering to its predecessor. 

The only disappointing element we found in the performance of the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) was in SSD speed. At just 3,952 MB/s sequential read and 2,957 MB/s sequential write, it's close to half what you'll get from many competitors on the market. You're unlikely t notice it when transferring media since you're generally bound to whatever interface you plug in with (we could transfer from an external PCIe SSD over thunderbolt at a max speed of 1,600 MB/s), but it's an unfortunate omission for something that's supposed to be the pinnacle of power. 

  • Performance score: 4.5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Battery life

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

(Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
  • 4h35min work lifespan 
  • 4h13min movie playback

This device's impressive performance is driven by a much bigger 245W peak power draw on the Vivobook compared to around 35W on the MacBook Pro. This means that while you’ll get around 4 hours and 35 minutes of battery using the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED for light work tasks, you won’t be able to really push the device with heavy workloads unless you’re close to a powerpoint. Running a game for example will net you only around an hour and a half of run-time on a full charge. 

The lifespan for 1080p movie playback lasting a total of 4 hours and 13 minutes. This is more than enough to get you through a film, but it's not ideal for those trying to use it for any reasonable length of time away from power. 

It's also disappointing against the 10-plus hours I've benchmarked on earlier AMD powered iterations of the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED for the same tests. It is low enough to make it an entirely different kind of offering to the 20-ish hours you might be able to stretch from a MacBook Pro 16, even if you're dabbling in graphical work. 

  • Battery life score: 3.5 / 5

Should you buy the Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023)?

Buy it if...

Performance is critical
If you want workstation performance from a creative Windows laptop then it’s hard to look past this exceptionally powerful device. 

Don't buy it if...

You need something that runs on battery
The Asus Vivobook 16X Pro OLED does not have a long battery lifespan, even by gaming laptop standards, so if you want to work on the go it’s best to look elsewhere. 

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Also consider

How I tested the Asus Vivobook 16X OLED (2023)

  • I tested it using both benchmark tests and video game benchmarks
  • I stress-tested the battery using the TechRadar movie test

I ran the Asus Vivobook 16X OLED through our standard suite of benchmarks to get a feel for the laptop's peak performance and to see how it compares with the best on the market.

In addition to our standard suite of testing, I also tested the device using it for a day of work to see how it fares when typing, web browsing, working and for light photo and video editing tasks. 

The screen was analysed using TechRadar's standard movie test and was compared against other screens running standard web browsing and movie editing software. 

The battery life was benchmarked with two tests to simulate different battery life scenarios.

Read more about how we test laptops and desktops.

First reviewed August 2023

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) review: this creative workstation is a MacBook Pro beater – at a third the price
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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Two Minute Review

Asus’ Vivobook Pro 16X OLED is a complicated range that isn't afraid to use the best components and play to their strengths, even if it makes messaging complicated for a consumer. 

The 2023 Vivobook Pro 16X OLED I’m covering here is a 16-inch creative workstation with a 13th gen Intel based processor that prioritises performance over battery life.

The 2022 version, however, which is still sold alongside the current update, uses an AMD processor and a slightly different 4K display that isn’t particularly powerful, but which will net you over 10 hours of battery during light work tasks.

What these devices have in common is that neither have much concern for conforming to an ultra-portable thin and light form factor. Admittedly, the Vivobook weighs a very manageable 1.9kg, but at 2.2cm thick it’s half a centimetre thicker than devices like the MacBook Pro 16 and this combines with the lightweight plastic keyboard surround to give it a decidedly gaming-laptop look. 

The powerful components on offer here may be more than capable of smoothly firing up your favourite games after work, but the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED is designed for work – a fact highlighted by the bundled Windows 11 Pro OS and Studio Driver pre-installed on the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 GPU. 

The Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) has an impressively powerful (and power hungry) 105W, 24 core Intel Core i9-13980HX CPU that can boost to 5.6GHz for results that will considerably outpace a top spec Apple MacBook Pro 16 (M2 Max) and often doubles the results of the 2022 AMD based Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2022). This is perfect for creatives that need their machines to do more, but it combines with the discrete graphics to draw a lot of power. This means battery life is only around 4.5 hours during light work tasks — A deal breaker for those that need to work on battery. 

Supporting these powerful components is an impressive 16-inch, 120Hz, OLED display that competes with the best OLED screens available on any laptop. This larger 3200 x 2000 pixel display also has a peak 600 nit brightness, Vesa DisplayHDR True Black 600, 100 percent DCI-P3 colour validated by Pantone and an ultra-fast 0.2ms response rate. 

The Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) is a different beast to the on-the-go work offering of the MacBook Pro 16, but when you get a more powerful laptop with 32GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD slot for $1,800 /  £1,699.99 / AU$3,399, it’s a pretty compelling alternative. 

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions (Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions (Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

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Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

(Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Price and availability

  • $2,000 / £1,700 / AU$3,399
  • Available now
  • Available in the US, UK and AU

The Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED is available in the US, UK and Australia right now with a few different variations offered in different regions. 

The 2023 Vivobook Pro 16X OLED comes with a 3K 120Hz OLED panel and shouldn’t be confused with the 2022 Vivobook Pro 16X OLED devices that have Intel 12th gen or AMD 5000 series processors. All these devices are being sold in some markets side-by-side, but while they might be priced similarly enough they can be very different offerings. 

The Intel based Vivobook Pro 16X OLED tested here features a 13th Gen i9- i9-13980HX CPU, 32GB RAM and a Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 GPU for $2,000 / £1,700 / AU$3,399. 

  • Price score: 4.5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Specs

The Vivobook Pro I was sent to review is listed below. There are earlier generations still available to buy and some regions offer 6000 series AMD alternatives. Some regions will also offer a few different GPU configurations. 

  • Specs score: 5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Design

Asus laptop on table

(Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
  • Pro OLED screen
  • Powerful components
  • Good port selection

The design of the Vivobook Pro 16X might seem a little counterintuitive at first. Its chassis is made largely out of plastic rather than the usual high-end unibody aluminium you might expect on a premium work device and the keyboard features a fluro-orange escape key and highlighted command keys that you’d usually only see on gaming laptops. 

If that wasn’t enough there’s also fluorescent rubber feet and a thicker-than-ultrabook 2.2cm profile with gaming styled air-vents, a sci-fi dog tag badge and and a hinge cutaway that mean this laptop looks more like a gaming laptop than many gaming laptops

Fortunately, it’s subtle enough that you could easily still pull it off in a work setting and the lightweight chassis and bolstered cooling mean you can easily push into demanding creative tasks without any issues. 

The screen is undoubtedly the standout attraction as far as the design goes, offering a 16-inch 3.2K OLED panel that is capable of a 600 peak brightness. This combination of OLED blacks and a brighter-than-usual screen make this display on offer one of the best we’ve ever seen on a laptop. 

The screen also offers Pantone Validated full DCI-P3 color and a Delta-E of less than 2 to make it the perfect laptop for video editing, using it as a photo editing laptop, or any other creative color work. It also comes with Dolby Vision HDR that’ll allow you to playback media in vivid HDR and the 120Hz refresh rate and low latency 0.2ms response rate means games and other moving media will appear smoother and more immediate.

Asus includes DialPad functionality on the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED’s trackpad, allowing you to quickly change a wide array of settings in creative applications. It’s also got a fingerprint sensor, number pad, physical webcam shield, and a wide array of interface options including; Ethernet, HDMI and an SD Card slot, to ensure you can conveniently work in a range of formats.  

The Harmon Kardon designed speakers are Dolby Atmos compatible and compliment the impressive screen, and Asus has harnessed the new AI capabilities of this 13th gen Intel chip to offer onboard AI background noise cancellation for web meeting audio, and can blur backgrounds and change focus settings for video.

  • Design score: 4.5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Performance

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

(Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
  • Excellent CPU performance
  • Solid GPU performance
Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED: Benchmarks

Here's how the Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) performed in our suite of benchmark tests:

3DMark: Port Royal: 5,538; Time Spy Extreme: 4,989; Time Spy: 10,356;
GeekBench 5: 2,115 (single-core); 18,934 (multi-core)
Cinebench R23 Multi-core:
28,443 points
Cyberpunk 2077 (1080p, Ultra): 90.77 fps;
RDR2 (1080p, Ultra): 144.94 fps;
Crystal DiskMark 8 (Read/ Write):
3,952/2,957 MB/s
PCMark 10 (Home Test): 7,781 points
Battery Life (TechRadar movie test): 4 hours, 35 minutes

Performance is a standout feature of the Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023). The Vivobook Pro 16X OLED has an impressive 105W, 24 core Intel Core i9-13980HX CPU that can boost to 5.6GHz and can push between 25 and 90 percent performance bumps over the M2 Max – A pretty serious performance achievement in a similarly sized laptop.

The 4060 on the model tested is also capable of graphical benchmark performance 28 percent more than a top-spec MacBook Pro 16 on Geekbench 5 OpenCL benchmark and can almost double the Apple unit’s Sid Meier's: Civilization VI frame rates.

This graphical performance is also roughly double what I had on file for the ASUS Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2022) with a Nvidia GeForce RTX 3050 Ti across a range of gaming and synthetic benchmarks. A performance jump that makes it a very different offering to its predecessor. 

The only disappointing element we found in the performance of the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023) was in SSD speed. At just 3,952 MB/s sequential read and 2,957 MB/s sequential write, it's close to half what you'll get from many competitors on the market. You're unlikely t notice it when transferring media since you're generally bound to whatever interface you plug in with (we could transfer from an external PCIe SSD over thunderbolt at a max speed of 1,600 MB/s), but it's an unfortunate omission for something that's supposed to be the pinnacle of power. 

  • Performance score: 4.5 / 5

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Battery life

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED in various positions

(Image credit: Future - Joel Burgess)
  • 4h35min work lifespan 
  • 4h13min movie playback

This device's impressive performance is driven by a much bigger 245W peak power draw on the Vivobook compared to around 35W on the MacBook Pro. This means that while you’ll get around 4 hours and 35 minutes of battery using the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED for light work tasks, you won’t be able to really push the device with heavy workloads unless you’re close to a powerpoint. Running a game for example will net you only around an hour and a half of run-time on a full charge. 

The lifespan for 1080p movie playback lasting a total of 4 hours and 13 minutes. This is more than enough to get you through a film, but it's not ideal for those trying to use it for any reasonable length of time away from power. 

It's also disappointing against the 10-plus hours I've benchmarked on earlier AMD powered iterations of the Vivobook Pro 16X OLED for the same tests. It is low enough to make it an entirely different kind of offering to the 20-ish hours you might be able to stretch from a MacBook Pro 16, even if you're dabbling in graphical work. 

  • Battery life score: 3.5 / 5

Should you buy the Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023)?

Buy it if...

Performance is critical
If you want workstation performance from a creative Windows laptop then it’s hard to look past this exceptionally powerful device. 

Don't buy it if...

You need something that runs on battery
The Asus Vivobook 16X Pro OLED does not have a long battery lifespan, even by gaming laptop standards, so if you want to work on the go it’s best to look elsewhere. 

Asus Vivobook Pro 16X OLED (2023): Also consider

How I tested the Asus Vivobook 16X OLED (2023)

  • I tested it using both benchmark tests and video game benchmarks
  • I stress-tested the battery using the TechRadar movie test

I ran the Asus Vivobook 16X OLED through our standard suite of benchmarks to get a feel for the laptop's peak performance and to see how it compares with the best on the market.

In addition to our standard suite of testing, I also tested the device using it for a day of work to see how it fares when typing, web browsing, working and for light photo and video editing tasks. 

The screen was analysed using TechRadar's standard movie test and was compared against other screens running standard web browsing and movie editing software. 

The battery life was benchmarked with two tests to simulate different battery life scenarios.

Read more about how we test laptops and desktops.

First reviewed August 2023

Ninja Double Oven air fryer review: a high-performing, roomy air fryer
1:00 pm | August 28, 2023

Author: admin | Category: Computers Gadgets | Tags: | Comments: Off

Two-minute review

The Ninja Double Oven Air Fryer is a unique entry among the exploding kitchen-scape of these types of cooking appliances. With oven-style air fryers in the minority compared to the cheaper basket-style variety, as far as I can tell, there aren’t any other models that come with two separate cooking compartments. For that, you’ll have to stick to a handful of basket air fryers, including models from Ninja.

Ninja’s product line appears to consist of two oven-style air fryers – the DCT451 reviewed here and the slightly cheaper (by $20) DCT40. However, they’re actually the same unit, with the more expensive one arriving with a smart thermometer.

The rarity of this air fryer’s form factor might not be enough for it to stand among the best air fryers available right now; but, luckily, it performs exactly as it should, leaving little room for concern. In fact, outside of its price, which can certainly be considered premium, the only issue is cleaning the inside of the compartments. 

Basket-style air fryers enable you to remove the entire basket for cleanup; but cleaning an oven-style air fryer such as this one from Ninja is very very much like cleaning the inside of a toaster oven. That said, you can’t cook a pizza, roast a chicken, or toast a number of slices of sourdough all at once in the former. And, with the Ninja Double Oven air fryer, you can engage two different cooking functions at the same time. 

Ninja Double Oven review: price and availability

  • List price: $349.99 (about £274 / AU$532)
  • Available in the US only

The Ninja Double Oven is only available Stateside. While Ninja does offer oven-style air fryers in the UK or Australia, there are none with a dual oven setup.

That’s unfortunate, since the Ninja Double Oven is certainly worth its admittedly high price of $349.99 (about £274 / AU$532), because not only does it arrive with a dual oven setup, but each has its own separate functions, too. 

If you’re not in the US, you’re limited to basket-style air fryers such as the Ninja Foodi Dual Zone Air Fryer AF300, which sells for £179.99 / AU$399 (about $263). There are models that feature dual compartments that can be set to cook separately or finish at the same time just like the Ninja Double Oven. However, because of the basket form factor, you have less surface area to space out your food.

Of course, if that dual oven functionality isn’t so important, you can spend quite a bit less than you would on the Ninja Double Oven. The Cuisinart TOA-60 Air Fryer Toaster Oven at $229.95 / £250 does an excellent job, with seven cooking functions and the capacity to cook things like pizza.

Value: 3/5

Ninja Double Oven review: specifications

Ninja Double Oven review: Design

  • Double-oven design with individual functions and controls
  • Smart finish
  • Lots of accessories, but only one crumb tray

The most striking thing about the Ninja Double Oven is its two cooking compartments. Each offers six cooking functions, with different options to choose from. 

The size of each compartment reflects this dual functionality, with the upper oven a fair bit smaller than the bottom. For instance, the top can broil, toast, bagel, reheat and keep warm, while the bottom does whole roast, air roast, air fry, convection bake, pizza and rehydrate.

an image of the front of the Ninja Double Oven

(Image credit: Future)

Each oven has its own set of three buttons, so you can select that particular oven and adjust the temperature and cooking time. There’s also a general use dial, power and backlight buttons, as well as buttons for the included smart thermometer, not to mention the button for the smart finish feature.

Since I’ve mentioned that smart finish feature, it’s quite a nifty inclusion that makes the Ninja Dual Oven even more convenient by letting you sync both ovens to complete cooking at the same time.

an image of the back of the Ninja Double Oven

(Image credit: Future)

The last thing I’ll mention here regarding the two-oven design is the design of the door. Along with a big handle to easily pull down the whole door, there’s a latch to the left that, when pressed, only opens the top oven for access while the bottom oven continues cooking.

As you’d expect with a souped-up air fryer oven such as this, the Ninja Double Oven comes with plenty of accessories from that smart thermometer to two sheet pans, two wire racks, an air fryer basket, and a crumb tray. While I appreciate that all the racks are dishwasher safe, I’d have liked a second crumb tray for easier cleanup. Instead, I had to resort to putting some aluminum foil along the bottom of the lower oven to keep cleanup simple.

Design: 5/5

Ninja Double Oven review: Performance

  • Cooks evenly and consistently across all functions
  • Very easy to use
  • Cleaning is tough

When it comes to actually cooking, the Ninja Double Oven stands up to the test. Regardless of whether I used the top oven or bottom for cooking nuggets, fries, pizza, toasting bread, and so on, the results were consistent. 

All the functions worked as expected. I was particularly happy with the way the oven roasted broccoli – perfect, instead of burnt or dry – as well as the convection bake, which did a great job with potatoes. It was also ideal for making a vegan egg souffle. If there are any issues cooking with the Ninja Double Oven, it’s likely to be the result of user error.

A photo of the Ninja Double Oven cooking vegetables

(Image credit: Future)

Beyond its cooking ability, setting up each and even pairing both compartments’ cooking times with the Smart Finish feature proved easy and straightforward. I didn’t have to look in the manual to figure things out. 

Instead, I simply selected the functions and individual settings for each oven, hit the Smart Finish button, and then pressed the dial, which also functions as start and stop.

an image of the inside of the Ninja Double Oven

(Image credit: Future)

The only issue I have experienced with the Ninja Double Oven is trying to maintain it. The lack of a second crumb tray results in extra work to remove any oil that splatters on the side of the compartment. 

If I want the air fryer looking its best, then using steel wool is probably the only way to remove that caked on oil. Unfortunately, this will likely be a common issue with oven-style air fryers. Nevertheless, it really is the only complaint here, aside of its premium price.

Performance: 4.5/5

Should I buy the Ninja Double Oven?

Buy it if...

Don't buy it if...

Also consider...

How I tested

  • I used the Ninja Double Oven for a couple weeks
  • Cooked various items using the different functions
  • Put all its features to the test

Putting the Ninja Double Oven Air Fryer through its paces over the course of a few weeks, I used it to cook a variety of foods – from pizzas to toast, to using the roasting function for veggies and the convection bake setting for an (vegan) egg soufflé. I also evaluated the different features, most notably Smart Finish, to see how well it worked.

Having spent some time with the Double Oven, I was able to come to a conclusion about the type of household it would most suit. While a single person or couple will happily be able to make use of its functions, its dual-oven design is ideal for those with limited time who want to cook bigger quantities of food that’s ready at the same time.

I’ve been testing all sorts of tech gadgets, gear, and appliances for a few years now and have used that knowledge to figure out the ins and outs of this air fryer to see how well it measures up to expectations and the competition.

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First reviewed August 2023

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The first day of school is almost here, so now may be a good time to pick up a new phone – or perhaps a new tablet will be more useful. We’ll also look at some accessories too. USA UK Germany India USA Google is charging $444 for the Pixel 7a. At this price you may as well get the Pixel 7 at $450. This offer also comes with a small discount on Pixel Buds too ($60 off for the Pro and $40 off the Buds A-Series). Google Pixel 7 8/128GB $150 off Read our review ...

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Chip design company Arm, owned by SoftBank Group, filed for IPO in the United States. Market watchers are expecting the offering to be one of the highest for a tech company in history, and it is expected to reach an overall value of over $70 billion. The move comes after SoftBank acquired the final 25% of the company for $16 billion, essentially valuing the chip company at $64 billion. Bloomberg suggested Arm is looking to raise around $10 billion, as the number of official shares that will be in the public offering is not yet revealed. The company said in the filing that...

Asus Zenfone 10 review: powerful and pocketable but performative
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Asus Zenfone 10 two-minute review

If the Asus Zenfone 10 is a write-in for the title of ‘best small phone’, it’s only because it’s the only small phone to be released this year, with the ‘best’ designation used through gritted teeth.

Asus seems to keep bumping into the same problem with its Zenfone line of mini Android phones: in a world where mobiles are always getting bigger and bigger, what do you do with a device that’s defined by its small stature?

Not much, says the Asus Zenfone 10, because it’s a near clone of the Asus Zenfone 9 that we saw a year prior, but with a few specs tweaked and a higher price. And all in all, it offers the same package: it’s nice for people who want a one-handed phone, but its identity issues mean it’s not getting onto our list of the best Android phones.

Like a Michelin-star chef using cheap ingredients, Asus has a great recipe with its Zenfone mobiles but hasn't got the recipe right. There’s definitely a market for cutesy one-handed mobiles, but by combining both premium features (the chipset, the high-end price) and ones that leave a sour taste in your mouth (the camera, the design, the slow charging), the company is ending with a ‘jack of no trades’, so to say.

Case in point, the chipset. Asus has insistently pumped the newest and best Snapdragon chips into each entry of Zenfone series, which would ostensibly make them great for gaming – until you realize that they’re so small, that it’s hard to see what you’re doing in your game. 

The price is another sticking point, with the $699.99 / £749.99 (roughly AU$1,450) asking price putting the Zenfone at roughly the same price point as the iPhone 14 and Samsung Galaxy S22. Suffice to say, the Zenfone 10 is not a contender, given its weaker cameras and less impressive screen.

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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Asus has kept to its distinctly unimpressive specs in other areas. The camera array would feel at home on a mid-range mobile, while the charging speed gets beaten by many more affordable Android phones. 

If you’re looking for a small phone, though, you don't really have many other options. The market for new sub-6-inch mobiles basically gives you two options: Zenfone or iPhone SE, meaning Android phone fans will have to settle.

So far, the tone of this two-minute review has been negative, and that’s because it’s hard to recommend this phone to people who aren’t dead-set on getting a small phone, but there are some qualities to the Zenfone that make it worth considering.

Thanks to its small size, the Zen 10 is very easy to use one-handed, and it slips into even the smallest pocket or purse with ease.

Some of the Zenfone 10's improvements are welcome: the front-facing camera has gotten a lot better, and the selfie experience is noticeably improved. Plus, wireless charging will gain some converts into the Asus camp. We’ve also got to flag the wide variety of bright color options: Asus sees your ‘black or white’ binary choices for many modern mobiles and raises you red, blue and green to boot. 

But are more colors, more megapixels and more ways to charge that big of an upgrade, given the higher price? 

Why Asus won’t position its Zenfone devices as happy mid-rangers is a mystery to us – with some of the specs clipped, and at a more affordable price point, this mobile could do gangbusters. Sadly, that isn’t the Zenfone 10.

Asus Zenfone 10 review: price and availability

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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  • On sale in the UK & Europe from July 31
  • Pre-order in the US from August 22
  • Australian availability TBC
  • From $699.99 (128GB) / £749.99 (256GB)

After being unveiled on June 29, 2023, the Asus Zenfone 10 hit shelves on July 31 in Europe (including the UK). The phone hit pre-order in the US on August 22 and an Australian release hasn’t yet been confirmed.

The phone costs $699.99 (roughly £550 / AU$1,090) for the base 8GB RAM / 128GB storage variant (which seems to be a US-exclusive), $749.99 / £749.99 (roughly AU$1,450) for a bump to 256GB of storage and $799.99 / £819.99 (around AU$1,550) for the top-tier 16GB RAM / 512GB model. Our review unit was of the fully-loaded model, in its Aurora Green variant, but there are also white, black, red and blue options.

For some comparison, the Asus Zenfone 9 cost $699 / £699 / AU$1,199 for 8GB / 128GB and $799 / £749 (around AU$1,300) for 16GB / 256GB build. So there’s a slight price increase for each RAM model year-on-year, and while it arguably could be justified by the increased storage and other features, it does make the Zenfone even closer in terms of price to some top-tier rivals.

The Android champ, the Samsung Galaxy S23 costs $799.99 / £849 / AU$1,349 and the iPhone 14 costs $799 / £849 / AU$1,339; both for their base models, so although they’re both a touch costlier than the Asus, the margin between cheapest models is shrinking with each generation. And more importantly, the Zenfone 10 has crossed the border between ‘mid-range’ phone into ‘premium’, albeit at the cheaper end of the spectrum.

  • Value score: 3.5 / 5

Asus Zenfone 10 review: Specs

The Zenfone 10 arguably boasts more power than it could ever use effectively, but it's nice to know that this pint-sized smartphone has room to spare, regardless of what you might throw at it.

Asus Zenfone 10 review: design

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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  • One of the only noteworthy compact phones available
  • IP68 certified
  • Rare 3.5mm headphone jack
  • Numerous color options

The Asus Zenfone 10 is a real dead ringer for the Zenfone 9 – the one small tweak is the design of the camera system, but even I didn’t spot this minor change before reading the company’s comments pointing it out.

The phone’s selling point is its size. At 146.5 x 68.1 x 9.4mm, it’s one of the smallest modern mobiles on the market, with only the iPhone SE being smaller. This is reflected in the weight too, with the phone being nice and light at 172g.

With these dimensions, the phone is easy to use one-handed, with all but the extremities of the display as well as the buttons on the right edge being well within reach. Those buttons are the volume rocker and power button, with the latter embedded in a side-mounted fingerprint scanner that was reliable at picking up my thumbprint during testing.

In theory, the size would make the Zenfone incredibly comfortable to hold, but Asus balances this by following the flat-edge phone trend that’s become popular in the last few years (despite common sense). The corners of the handset, therefore, dig into the palm and fingers a little when you’re holding it.

There’s a USB-C port for charging your phone as well as a 3.5mm headphone jack, with the Zenfone rapidly becoming one of the last bastions for wired audio fans (alongside the Sony Xperia 1 V).

If you like a well-protected phone, you’ll be at home here: there’s an IP68 rating against water and dust, and the frame is made of plastic, which may not feel too premium in the hand but it’s certainly more durable than glass.

As stated, there are quite a few color options for the Asus Zenfone 10, making it a rare exception to the modern rule of boring phone shades. We tested Aurora Green, though from Asus’ images, red seems like the real vibrant standout.

  • Design score: 3.5 / 5

Asus Zenfone 10 review: display

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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  • 5.9-inch Full HD+ display
  • 144Hz refresh rate (up from 120Hz on Zenfone 9)
  • Small screen size can make gaming difficult

A small body means a small screen, and at 5.9 inches, this is one of the smallest displays you’ll find on a current-gen smartphone. It does match the last few generations of Zenfone, in the resolution as well as the size, with 1080 x 2400 Full HD+ making a return.

An improvement here is the refresh rate, which has crept up to 144Hz, meaning that the screen refreshes 144 times per second, for smoother motion. This is only actually available in games though, not for everyday use, so non-gamers won’t be able to make the most of it.

We’re not sure why gamers would pick a 5.9-inch screen phone for gaming though, as it’s just not big enough to see details. When you’ve got icons cluttering the screen and your fingers blocking your vision you’ll find yourself begging for a bigger display.

  • Display score: 3.5 / 5

Asus Zenfone 10 review: software

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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  • Zen UI atop Android 13 out of box
  • Smart Key is a great inclusion
  • Promised two years of OS updates, four years security updates

Like most Android phone makers, Asus likes to layer its own user interface over stock Android – for the Zenfone 10, Android 13 is embellished with Zen UI.

Unlike some Android forks, Zen UI is quite a gentle overhaul, and you’d be forgiven for thinking the Zenfone 10 ran stock Android, and that’s largely because Asus lets you pick between its own features and the Android alternatives.

Zen UI gives you a redesigned and improved volume slider, a unique call display, reorganized quick settings panels and more, but many of the changes are purely in the appearance.

One bigger improvement is Smart Key, which lets you activate various functions by double tapping or pressing and holding the side power key, however we found that this was less reliable than simply using the tried-and-tested methods for, say, checking notifications or skipping songs.

If you’re the sort that cares about support length, then you should know that Asus has confirmed the Zenfone 10 will get two years of operating system updates (so, up to Android 15) and two extra years beyond that for security patches.

  • Software score: 4 / 5

Asus Zenfone 10 review: cameras

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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  • 50MP main + 13MP ultra-wide
  • 32MP front-facer (up from 12MP on predecessors)
  • Improved AI image processing but no autofocus on ultra-wide

The Asus Zenfone 10 has a few changes over its predecessor, but I'm loathed to call these ‘upgrades’. Side-grades?

The main camera is the same as on the Zenfone 9: a 50MP f/1.9 snapper that uses the ever-popular Sony IMX766 sensor. This is a good mid-range sensor that picks up light well, making for colorful pictures, and you'll find it in plenty of budget and mid-range mobiles.

As you can see from the camera samples below, the photos taken were reasonably rich, with decent contrast and saturation – and it seems Asus has improved its AI image processing from previous mobiles.

Joining that on the back is a 13MP ultra-wide camera, with a 120-degree field of view, which is slightly higher-res and wider than last year’s alternative, but with the curious omission of autofocus. Oops? Autofocus isn’t as important on this camera as on the main one, but with many people opting to use UW cameras to take macro pictures, some might find the lack of this feature critical.

A more jarring issue that I found with this camera is that photos were noticeably more desaturated and flat than on the main camera. Goodbye color.

There are only two rear cameras here – clearly Asus is taking the wrong leaf from the iPhone playbook – and so if you like a versatile photographic experience, the lack of a macro or telephoto lens will disappoint you.

On the front of the phone, the camera hardware has undergone a more drastic change, with the 12MP selfie snapper of years past ditched in favor of a 32MP shooter. This makes a marked increase on selfie quality – not only are they more high res, letting you edit and play with them more, but Portrait mode and AI processing upgrades are abound too. In this department, at least, Asus has sussed out how to upgrade its phones.

Video recording maxes out at 8K/24fps or 4K/60fps, or if you want to embrace slow-mo there’s 4K/120fps, FHD/240fps or HD/480fps. The other modes on the Camera app tick all the standard boxes: there’s time-lapse, portrait, light trails, Pro and night mode.

Please note, the two selfie camera samples had to be cropped to 1:1 in order to upload successfully. By default, the phone captures in 4:3.

Asus Zenfone 10 camera samples

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A camera sample from the Asus Zenfone 10

A nice flower in a field, captured on the main camera. (Image credit: Future)
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A camera sample from the Asus Zenfone 10

A wide field, taken on the main camera... (Image credit: Future)
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A camera sample from the Asus Zenfone 10

... the same field captured on the ultra-wide camera. (Image credit: Future)
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A camera sample from the Asus Zenfone 10

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Examples of a selfie on the Asus Zenfone 10

A photo taken on the standard Zenfone 10 front-facing camera mode. (Image credit: Future)
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Examples of a selfie on the Asus Zenfone 10

A photo taken on the Zenfone 10's portrait mode. As you can tell I'm smiling more, and that's because I look better in portrait mode. (Image credit: Future)
  • Camera score: 3.5 / 5

Asus Zenfone 10 review: performance and audio

  • Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is overkill for a phone of this size
  • Gaming is smooth but cramped
  • Versatile audio experience

We’ve touched on the Asus Zenfone 10’s chipset already; it’s the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, the current most powerful processor available to Android phones and found in lots of the top models. Asus tends to use the best chips available to it, and the Zenfone 10 is no exception.

This amount of processing power is, unfortunately, totally unnecessary – with its small screen size, it’s really hard to use the Zenfone for power-hungry applications like games, photo editing and so on. Bear in mind that a 16GB RAM version of the phone is on sale!

I played lots of Call of Duty Mobile and PUBG Mobile to test the phone, and ran into multiple problems. On-screen icons were, by default, way to small to be reliably pressed at a moment’s notice, and resizing them only goes so far to fix this. My hands also ended up covering lots of the screen, my thumbs would frequently smash into each other when I was trying to run one way and look the other, and even short gaming bouts resulted in some serious hand cramp from grasping this tiny mobile – gaming on this device was really tough (somewhat ironic as Asus also makes the best gaming phone on the market).

Remove the human element, and games play well – toggle the 144Hz screen option, and the highest graphics options available, and the Asus still tanks through games (well, other than the long-running overheating issue of Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets). But you’d be hard-pressed to notice if you can barely see the screen.

It’s getting tiring complaining about the Zenfone’s bizarre chipset choice – a Snapdragon 7-series chipset would let Asus sell its phone for less, would remove the overheating issue, and wouldn’t have a noticeable effect on the way people use the phone anyway. 

In terms of audio, the Zenfone has built-in speakers that are absolutely fine, but with a 3.5mm headphone jack and Bluetooth connectivity you can easily use your own headphones too.

  • Performance score: 3.5 / 5

Asus Zenfone 10 review: battery life

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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On any other phone, a 4,300mAh battery would throw up red flags: this mid-sized battery wouldn’t normally support a mobile with a top-end chip, 5G connectivity and high-refresh-rate display for very long at all. Thankfully, the Zenfone’s small screen lets it skirt around this issue, and it ends up having a pretty standard battery life.

In our testing we comfortably used the Zenfone 10 for a full day of use without needing to charge it up, which is what you expect from the average mobile. It won’t serve you for two days – realistically no phone will – but you won’t need to worry about it running out of charge over the course of just one.

Charging is done via the USB-C port at 30W, which is pretty slow in the grand scheme of Android phones, and it’ll take you at least an hour to power it to full. There’s a new feature here in the form of wireless charging, which comes in at 15W. Again, that’s not fast, but it’s a useful extra feature for people who like charging docks or pads.

I’ve frequently tested phones that are so big that they’re tricky to use on wireless charging stands, but the Zenfone’s size made it easy to place and readjust against some of the chargers it was placed upon.

  • Battery score: 4 / 5

Should you buy the Asus Zenfone 10?

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

(Image credit: Future)

Buy it if...

You want a tiny phone
Sick of struggling to reach the edges of your phone screen? This pint-size mobile is small enough that your woes will be gone.

You love the headphone jack
Asus is one of the few companies reliably using a 3.5mm headphone jack on mid-range and premium mobiles, so audio fans can rest easy here.

You're a selfie fan
With a new higher-resolution front camera and a few new AI tricks and tweaks, the Zenfone is a good phone for selfies. Plus, it's not going to block light when you hold it high, unlike some other rivals.

Don't buy it if...

You like your screen space
Whether you like watching Netflix on the go, play games a lot or simply like seeing lots of your email at once, many people want lots of screen space. If you have big hands too, you'll get cramp using this little phone.

You're a gamer
We can't overstate how many issues accompany this small form factor phone to make it a gaming nightmare. Small display, quick to overheat, hand cramp abounds.

You find the Zenfone 9 on sale
Not much has changed here from the Zenfone 9, and while we weren't blown away by that, a year's worth of sales could make it a much more affordable alternative.

Asus Zenfone 10 review: Also consider

Asus has settled into its comfort zone for the Zenfone 10, not changing much from the Zenfone 9, and if that didn't impress you then this won't either. In that case, here are some alternatives.

Google Pixel 6a
Another small phone, but this one has better cameras, a much lower price and cleaner software. Plus, it's not so small that your hand threatens to collapse in on itself. We prefer this to the Pixel 7a, especially with its ever-lowering price.

iPhone 13 mini
Is the whole 'Android' thing putting you off? In that case, consider the iPhone's small option (though not the too-small and otherwise-flawed iPhone SE). This is powerful, has great cameras and, most importantly for you Android naysayers, runs iOS.

How I tested the Asus Zenfone 10

The Asus Zenfone 10 on a bench, with a field in the background

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  • Review test period = 2 weeks
  • Testing included = Everyday usage, including web browsing, social media, photography, video calling, gaming, streaming video, music playback
  • Tools used = Geekbench 5, Geekbench 6, Geekbench ML, GFXBench, native Android stats

I started using the Asus Zenfone 10 when it was shipped to me to review, using the 512GB storage and 16GB RAM unit in green, as you can see from the pictures accompanying this review.

I used the phone as my normal device during the testing period which included bouts of photography, gaming and streaming shows, but I mainly just used it for everyday tasks; to listen to music on the way to work, doomscroll through social media during work and work or play after work.

Having previously spent time in the TechRadar phones team, including as a staff writer and also Deputy and Acting Editor for the section, I have lots of experience testing many different mobile devices including phones, tablets and wearables, and have tested many of the Asus Zenfone 10's rivals and predecessors. Plus I go climbing, so know some handy hand exercises to stop the cramp from using the thing hurt quite so much.

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First reviewed July 2023

Asus Zenfone 10 pre-orders finally start in the US with free pair of true wireless earbuds
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The Asus Zenfone 10 launched early last month in most places, but it's been a slow ride to reach the US. Thankfully, pre-orders are starting today. You can get your Zenfone 10 in Aurora Green, Eclipse Red, Comet White, Starry Blue, and Midnight Black from the Asus eShop, Amazon, and Mobile Advance. The price? From $699.99 to $799.99. If you purchase a Zenfone 10 from now and until September 30, you will receive a pair of ROG Cetra True Wireless earbuds for free, in either black or Moonlight White. The Zenfone 10 comes in a petite form factor for this day and age, and it sports a...

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine review: does the handstick king’s first vacuum mop sink or swim?
9:02 am | August 22, 2023

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Dyson V15s Detect Submarine: Two-minute review

The Dyson V15s Detect Submarine (try saying that quickly a few times!) is the brand’s first mopping vacuum cleaner. This isn’t just a hard floor specialist as it comes with an improved Digital Motorbar cleaning head designed to tackle carpets. The Fluffy Optic – first introduced as the Laser Fluffy in the Dyson V15 Detect – has also been upgraded with an LED light instead of the laser, which offers a brighter and broader beam to illuminate more floor space. The latter hard-floor cleaning head, however, only comes with the V15s Detect Submarine Complete (oh, that name is tiring!), which is the model Dyson sent for this particular review.

It's important to note that there are physical differences between the V15s Detect Submarine and the Complete model – the former is based on the original Dyson V15 Detect released in 2021, while the latter is based on the Dyson Gen5detect from 2022 and comes with the integrated crevice tool.

No matter which model you choose, the star of the show is the brand-new Submarine wet roller head that’s been designed to handle wet and dry spills. Whether it’s a thick, almost-dry food spill, muddy boot prints or just a regular mop of your hard floors, the Submarine can handle it all and mops very well. That said, it suffers from one design flaw that makes it a little hard to recommend as it is now – the dirty water tank is not fully sealed and, as it gets full, it can spill. The handstick’s LED display shows the clean water level only, meaning there’s no way to know how much dirty water is collecting.

Moreover, as the wet roller continues cleaning, at some point it can start to leave dirty streaks, particularly when you’ve paused at a spot. As long as you keep moving, it’s fine. But when you do stop to remove the Submarine cleaning head to give it a wash, not only will the saturated roller leave a streak, you'll get some dirty water spilling out too which even its drip tray – yes, Dyson has thoughtfully included one – can't prevent.

If you can figure out how to avoid those spills – I sure couldn’t in the few weeks I was testing the V15s Detect Submarine – then Dyson’s new cordless vacuum mop is a great cleaner. In fact, its mopping skills are par excellence! If Dyson can fix this design flaw on the Submarine head to prevent dirty water spills, then the next version of the machine is sure to go into TechRadar’s list of the best vacuum cleaners.

Another thing I like about the V15s Detect Submarine is that Dyson has gone back to the 60-minute battery pack, meaning it’s not as heavy as the Dyson Gen5detect, making it a lot easier to manoeuvre – like the V15 Detect. However, the integrated crevice tool that we first saw in the Gen5detect is here and it does not work as well as the one you get separately with the base model of the V15s Detect Submarine or the older Dyson models. Its length is too short to get deep into nooks and crannies, and it doesn’t create as good a seal as the separate attachment does, so it barely sucks up anything from skirting boards.

Despite its flaws, it’s hard for me to not recommend the V15s Detect Submarine to Dyson fans – it vacuums and mops very efficiently indeed – and considering it’s a Dyson with dual functionality, it’s priced rather well too.

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete tools and attachments hanging from the Free Dok Multi

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Dyson V15s Detect Submarine review: price and availability

  • Announced July 2023
  • Currently only available in Australia with prices from AU$1,549
  • Not available in the US or the UK yet; Singapore gets the Dyson V12s Detect Slim Submarine (from SG$1,299)

Dyson’s been testing its products by launching them in specific markets at first before releasing them elsewhere. For example, the Dyson Airstrait was released in the US only in May 2023 (yet to be sold elsewhere), while the robot vacuum cleaner called Dyson 360 Vis Nav is still stuck in Australia before heading elsewhere.

It’s the same with the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine – it’s currently only available in Australia, with a potential global release sometime in the future (no official timeline has been offered by Dyson yet). Strangely, Singapore gets a Submarine model, but it’s the V12s Detect Slim Submarine, meaning the handstick has a smaller bin.

To confuse matters further, Dyson has two models of the V15s Detect Submarine in Australia – the base model is identical to the V15 Detect but comes with two cleaning heads – the Digital Motorbar and the Submarine roller – at a cost of AU$1,549 (around $995 / £779 at the time of writing), while the Complete model resembles the Gen5detect handstick – integrated crevice tool is here – and ships with a freestanding dock called the Free Dok Multi and the newly designed Fluffy Optic in addition to the other two heads at a higher price of AU$1,649 (about $1,059 / £829).

This is the same price as the Gen5detect models in Australia and costs just AU$100 more than the V15 Detect. In my opinion, this is better value than either of Dyson's previous two offerings from 2021 and 2022. That’s because you’re not just getting a very good mopping head, but the Complete option also has an improved Fluffy Optic for hard floors that I much prefer over the original Laser Fluffy. However, the Complete option is exclusive to the Dyson Store.

  • Value score: 4 / 5

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine wet roller head

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Dyson V15s Detect Submarine: Specs

The below specifications are for the Australian model of the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete.

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine review: Design

  • Power trigger returns
  • Integrated crevice tool in the Complete model; separate attachment in the base model
  • New Submarine wet roller head for mopping

If you looked at the V15s Detect Submarine handstick, you’d be forgiven for thinking it was just the V15 Detect. And if you saw the V15s Detect Submarine Complete, then at first glance it might resemble the Gen5detect as you can see the red button to release the integrated crevice tool, but then you’ll see the power trigger on the newer machine which was replaced by a button on the 2022 model. And that saddens me – I breathed a sigh of relief that I no longer had to keep a trigger pressed to make a Dyson work… and it just went away again. Still, it’s not a major complaint, just something my arms would have preferred, and I’m sure I’m not alone.

The power trigger on the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete

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Resemblance to previous models aside, the standout here is the new mopping head. It took Dyson a long time to get here but it’s finally competing with the likes of the Samsung Bespoke Jet and the LG CordZero A9 Kompressor Aqua. With typical Dyson aesthetic, the new Submarine wet roller head has clean lines, a velvet roller, a small clean water ‘bottle’ (yes, it does resemble a water bottle) and, somewhere behind it all, a small compartment for the dirty mop water to collect. 

This is where someone at Dyson didn’t think things through as the compartment isn’t well sealed. That means that after you finish mopping and you want to remove the head to clean it, you will be dripping water on the floor as it sloshes around due to the movement. The only way that I found to avoid this is to make sure the drip tray – a grey plastic tray that fits under the Submarine head – is placed by the sink you’re going to be cleaning the head at before you start to mop. The moment you finish, place the drip tray under the head and then detach it. It’s not foolproof though and you might just need the head again to mop up the spill you just created.

Just going by the size, I thought the Submarine roller head would be heavy, but it’s surprisingly not. Even with water filled, the roller’s movement begins to pull the handstick as soon as you press the power trigger, so moving it along a hard floor is very easy. 

Maintaining the Submarine is easy as the velvet roller comes off and is fully washable, and you can rinse out the entire cleaning head – press a marked red button and the two parts slide apart.

If you opt for the Complete model, then you also get an updated version of the Fluffy Optic. Instead of the original laser light that I thought was superfluous in the V15 Detect, there’s now an LED light that functions a lot better. As I’ve said earlier in this review, the beam of light is now broader and brighter, so you can see it in any kind of ambient lighting condition and see more of the floor to let you clean more efficiently.

While the Digital Motorbar on the base model of the Submarine is identical to the V15 Detect’s, the one on the Complete model has been given a bit of a facelift to match the gold aesthetic of the handstick – the inner roller is also gold.

As I’ve mentioned before, the integrated crevice tool from the Gen5detect is here and, while useful, I prefer it as a separate attachment. That’s because the integrated version needs to fit inside the tube of the handstick, resulting in it being short and the opening too round and broad. The cutaway for the opening is angled too acutely, so you don’t necessarily create a seal when vacuuming a corner or skirting boards, and no dust gets sucked up. With the separate attachment, which comes with the base model of the Submarine, the slim opening is more efficient and it can be attached to the end of the tube, giving you more reach.

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Dyson V15s Detect Submarine's new wet roller head

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The inside of the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine's wet roller head

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The velvet roller under the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine mopping head

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Dyson V15s Detect Submarine wet roller head separated into its parts

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Another thing I have to talk about with the Complete package is the Free Dok Multi. It’s not often Dyson includes a free-standing dock for its cordless vacuum cleaners and they’re restricted to exclusive models only, as is the case here. However, the dock is far from what I expect from Dyson. The plastic feels flimsy, the parts aren’t easy to fit together and feel like they’ll break if I apply too much force, and the white plastic clashes really badly with the rest of the Dyson color aesthetic. Moreover, if you do get the Free Dok Multi, you can’t stick it into a corner or against a wall. There is only one spot to hang one of the three large attachments that come with the machine, so at least one is going to be hanging off the side slots, and you have to account for its length. So the space the Free Dok Multi takes is more than its slimline look would suggest.

Everything else is inherited from the other Dyson cordless vacuum cleaners – the HEPA filter on the top is washable, as are the rollers on the Submarine and Fluffy Optics. In fact, the entire Submarine wet roller is washable. Cleaning the bin is the same as before, although you will still need to watch out for the hair that gets tangled around the bin’s inner metal cylinder – these can be hard to remove and, as before, not the most hygienic cleaning method as Dyson would have us believe.

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine LED display showing water percentage

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The LED display is the same as we’ve seen on the V15 Detect, with the graphical representation of the dust and dirt the same vertical graph (as opposed to the horizontal one on the Gen5detect). When the Submarine tool is attached, it displays the percentage of clean water available. A button below the display will let you change the power mode.

Unlike both the Gen5detect and the V15 Detect, I find the V15s Detect Submarine a lot easier to move around, no matter which cleaning head I’m using. According to Dyson’s spec sheet, the Complete model weighs 3.8kg, compared to the V15 Detect at 3.1kg and the Gen5detect at 3.5kg. I think that’s a mistake as it feels lighter than the V15 Detect in the hand, and the Submarine roller just makes it super easy to drag along a floor. I’ve tried measuring the machine myself on a weighing scale, but because I have to hold it in place, the measurements aren’t accurate and come in at just under 3kg, which can’t be right either.

  • Design score: 4 / 5

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine HEPA filter casing

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Dyson V15s Detect Submarine review: Performance

  • Excellent mopping capabilities
  • Dirty-water spills can happen, which can be mopped up with the V15s Detect Submarine
  • Same vacuum prowess as the V15 Detect

Considering the V15s Detect Submarine is Dyson’s first vacuum mop, I think the company has done quite well. The appliance’s vacuuming skills are, as before, quite good. It’s the same vacuuming performance we saw from the V15 Detect, just quieter. So carpets are well taken care of, as are hard floors. The dynamic suction we’ve seen in the last few Dyson models is here, so most users will only need to leave the machine in Auto mode and it will do its thing and, as before, I still think the Digital Motorbar is the catch-all tool for any kind of floor. However, if it’s mostly fine dust in your home and you don’t have pets, then the Fluffy Optic that ships with the Complete model is good and no longer the novelty that I thought it was when I tested the V15 Detect.

So let’s talk mopping here in more detail. The Submarine wet roller cleaning attachment is pretty impressive when it comes to cleaning spills, both wet and dry. For the latter, however, you do need to remember that there’s no suction when using the Submarine, so you’re mopping up a dry spill, not vacuuming. If you need to clean up breakfast cereal, for example, you can mop up the milk, but you’ll need to use the Digital Motorbar after it’s all dried up to suck up the cereal itself. The Fluffy Optic, however, will only scatter the dried cereal as there’s not enough space between the roller and its case to pull in large cereal like Cheerios. However, spills with smaller bits of food, like rice, can be mopped up easily by the Submarine, but you will need to give it a good wash and allow it to dry fully before using it again.

The updated Fluffy Optic with the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete

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Tracked muddy shoes through the house? The Submarine will take care of that and do an impressive job of cleaning up the mud – whether dried or wet – and the stains on the floor. Some stubborn food stains may need a few passes over them, but the Submarine is perfectly capable of handling that. Spilt water on the floor? The Submarine roller will mop that dry too. I used it in the bathroom of my test space (aka my own apartment), not just to mop the floor but also dry out the shower stall and I was very impressed indeed.

Even more impressive is the fact that the roller seems to pick up a heck of a lot of fine dust that the Fluffy Optic misses and doesn’t even illuminate, leaving your floors spotless and a lot cleaner than just vacuuming. I’m basing this on the color of the mop water and how dirty the roller gets after just a few passes on an already-vacuumed floor.

What was not all that impressive was the subsequent dirty water spills I had as I walked from said bathroom to the laundry room sink where I was going to wash the Submarine roller head. So I had to empty the dirty water and use the Submarine to mop up the spills anyway.

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete's integrated crevice tool button

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This is far from ideal and clearly something Dyson didn’t think through. There’s no way to know how much mop water is filling up in the compartment behind the roller as the display only shows how much clean water you have left to work with. If it was the other way around, perhaps the unsealed compartment wouldn’t have been such a bother and I could empty the dirty water after mopping each room (which, again, is not ideal). Not everyone is going to lug the drip tray around as they mop or remember to place it exactly where you finish. And while this design flaw might seem like a small one, it ends up being a bigger issue for the end consumer to deal with.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the Submarine attachment doesn’t hold a lot of clean water. You’ll be able to do a large living room only before you’ll need to refill the little bottle in the cleaning head. So if your multi-room home is all hard floors, you’ll need to fill it often and empty the dirty water just as often, which may not be ideal for everyone.

  • Performance score: 4 / 5

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete's redesigned Digital Motorbar

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Dyson V15s Detect Submarine review: Battery life

  • Up to 60 minutes of fade-free power
  • Average of 42 minutes with motorized cleaning heads
  • Replaceable battery pack

With the V15s Detect Submarine, Dyson’s gone back to the 60-minute battery pack it uses in the V15 Detect. That, I think, is a good move because the 70-minute battery used in the Gen5detect made the machine quite heavy and hard to move around or used as a handheld unit.

While it’s possible to get a full 60 minutes of runtime from the V15s Detect Submarine, that will only work with the non-motorized tools like the Hair Screw Tool and the Combination Tool or achievable in Eco mode. You’ll also get almost the whole 60 minutes with the Submarine roller head as the suction is switched off with it attached, however you'll run out of clean water long before you'll need to recharge the machine.

With the motorized tools – namely the Digital Motorhead and the Fluffy Optic – you can get anywhere between 40 to 45 minutes in Auto mode, depending on how often the dynamic suction comes into play. If your home is particularly dirty and the suction changes often, you may get less than 40 minutes, but you can also get up to 50 minutes if there isn't a lot of dust.

During my testing, I managed to get 62 minutes in Eco mode, but I wasn’t quite enthused by the clean I got in this mode. On the other hand, Boost is great for carpets but you can expect to run out of juice in about 8 minutes.

Topping up the battery, according to Dyson, should take 4.5 hours, but my test unit went from 20% to full in a smidge over 3 hours, so I expect empty to full shouldn’t take more than 3.5 hours.

Attachments and tools of the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete hanging from the Free Dok Multi

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Should I buy the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine?

Buy it if...

Don't buy it if...

Also consider

If you’re not sold on the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine, then take a look at the below alternatives as solid competitors instead.

How I tested the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine

  • Used up to three times a week as main vacuum cleaner
  • Spilt milky cereal, water and sauces on the floor to test mopping capabilities
  • Avoided using detergents

Dyson V15s Detect Submarine Complete standing next to a bookshelf

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I’ve used the Dyson V15s Detect Submarine two to three times a week for four weeks as my main vacuum, while also running the Dyson V15 Detect to compare suction during vacuuming. I allowed hair and dust to accumulate on the carpet in one room before the first test run.

I also scattered different-sized grain on the floor to test vacuuming, including sugar, rice, Cheerios and tapioca pearls. I then used the Digital Motorbar and the Fluffy Optic to vacuum to determine which one does best on such debris.

To test the mopping prowess, I poured cereal and milk on the floor, allowing it to dry. I first vacuumed up the cereal, then used the Submarine wet roller head to mop the dried, sticky milk. I also poured water on a patch of floor to mop up to see how well the patch dries. Dusty shoe prints and dried food on the floor were also mopped during different tests.

I’ve actively been testing and reviewing vacuum cleaners of all kinds for the last six years and have learnt what to look for when choosing a machine that’s best for different kinds of homes. I also place high importance on value for money in any appliance I test.

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[First reviewed August 2023]

Gigabyte Aero 14 review: the best 14-inch OLED laptop screen around
5:21 am | August 17, 2023

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Gigabyte Aerop 14: Two Minute Review

The Aero 14 has long been the most work-focused offering from Taiwanese PC component and gaming laptop manufacturer Gigabyte, but while this business Ultrabook is thin and light, it’s got plenty to offer under the hood. 

The 14-inch 3K OLED display is one of the brightest screens we’ve seen on a laptop, OLED or otherwise, so it’s no surprise that it’s capable of extreme vibrancy and contrast. Add to this a pro video color gamut with precise color accuracy and it’s more than capable of handling creative workloads. 

The 14-core Intel 13th generation CPU and Nvidia GeForce RTX 4050 GPU combine to provide more than enough grunt for more demanding creative workflows. If you need a lot of RAM you might need to look elsewhere since the 16GB of DDR5 is non-upgradable, but for most this should be enough and is balanced well with the rest of the machine’s capabilities. 

The physical design is great, with a lot of attention to detail in the CNC unibody chassis and port selection. I also liked Gigabyte’s Control Center software which offers the unique benefit of a driver update centre that helps you keep on top of software updates outside of Windows 11’s remit.

Unfortunately, the CPU is around 20 percent behind Apple’s M2 Pro or Max processors and the 90W maximum power draw drains the 63Wh battery in 4 to 5 hours depending on the task. This poor battery life makes it a harder sell as a portable creative device and so while it’s one of the thinnest and lightest creative workstations around, it’s really only suitable for those that have access to power where they work.

Gigabyte Aero 14: Price and availability

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Gigabyte aero 14 on a table

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Gigabyte aero 14 on a table

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Gigabyte aero 14 on a table

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Gigabyte aero 14 on a table

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  • $1599 / £2,384 / AU$2,999
  • Available now
  • Available in the US and AU, limited availability in the UK

While the US is clearly Gigabyte’s preferred market selling the Aero 14 OLED for just $1599, the UK and Australia get hit with a massive tax with the device going for £2,384 and AU$2,999, respectively. 

It’s pretty disappointing to see such wild differences in price across markets so keep in mind that the scores are reflected for the US market only, with about a half mark deduction required for Australia and a 'don’t bother' ticket for the one place I could see it available in the UK. 

  • Price score: 3.5 / 5

Gigabyte Aero 14: Specs

There is only one version of the Gigabyte Aero 14 OLED (2023) available globally. It can be differentiated from its predecessor by the 13th generation Intel Core processor.

You can see the specs for the available model below. 

Gigabyte Aero 14: Design

Gigabyte aero 14 on a table

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  • Amazing OLED screen
  • Tough aluminum chassis
  • Good port selection

It’s been a minute since we last covered an Aero from Gigabyte and it seems the range that was once defined by its pops of orange and green on the cover has matured into a sleek silver workhorse that won’t rock the boat in an office setting. 

Still, it’s nice to see that the company is forging its own path in laptop design with unique little details, including an HDMI port at the rear of the device that looks like the exhaust of a sports car and a fast-looking set of thermal vents.

The laptop is covered in a CNC milled aluminum chassis that offers a lot of strength for its thin and light design. We would’ve probably preferred a slightly more subdued silver coloring over the gaudy platinum on offer, but it’s still an elegant overall finish. 

The most striking design feature is undoubtedly the screen. The device has been fitted with an OLED panel that offers Vesa HDR 600 True Black certification, making it the brightest of its kind that I’ve seen. The Apple MacBook Pro 14 (M1) offers 1000nit peak brightness and the new M2 powered Pros feature an impressive 1600nit peak brightness, but they are not OLED panels which makes it difficult to make a direct comparison.

Nevertheless, the smooth 90Hz display on the Aero 14 OLED offers a sharp 2880 by 1800 pixel resolution and a full DCI-P3 colour gamut commonly used in professional video production, which pushes this bright OLED into being an exceptionally vibrant screen that is perfectly suited to creative work. 

You'd be forgiven for thinking the Aero 14 only packs 'modern' ports, with its array of three Thunderbolt / USB-C ports, one microSD card reader and one headphone jack on the sides, but it also sneaks in a legacy USB-A port on the back next to the HDMI, which is bound to come in handy. 

Gigabyte Aero 14: Performance

Gigabyte aero 14 on a table

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  • Decent CPU performance
  • Solid GPU performance
Gigabyte Aero 14: Benchmarks

Here's how the Gigabyte Aero 14 performed in our suite of benchmark tests:

3DMark: Port Royal: 3,579; Time Spy Extreme: 3,054; Time Spy: 6,696; Port Royal: 4,834
GeekBench 5: 1,669 (single-core); 12,375 (multi-core)
Cinebench R23 Multi-core:
12,239 points
Cyberpunk 2077 (1080p, Ultra): 70.92 fps;
RDR2 (1080p, Ultra): 66.35 fps;
Crystal DiskMark 8 (Read/ Write): 6,965/5005 MB/s
PCMark 10 (Home Test): 6,696 points
Battery Life (TechRadar movie test): 4 hours, 45 minutes

There’s a few different ways to look at performance of the Gigabyte Aero 14 OLED device, but the most straightforward is that it's got a powerful CPU and GPU that combine to mean you'll breeze through demanding creative workloads. 

When you look at it against the competition, it’s hard not to compare it to the MacBook Pro 14, especially in Australia where they’re priced very similarly. The Intel Core i7-3700H is about 20 percent behind the Apple M2 Pro or Max processors in comparable CPU tasks. The Nvidia GeForce RTX 4050 is however capable of keeping up with graphical performance from the top MacBook Pro processor. 

Anyone hoping to play games after their creative work can expect 60 frames-per-second and above on modern titles at 1080p Ultra settings. You can even utilise the slightly higher 90Hz refresh rate for smoother visuals on less demanding titles. 

Gigabyte Aero 14: Battery life

Gigabyte aero 14 on a table

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  • 3h38min work lifespan 
  • 4h45min movie playback

Even if Gigabyte went with a processor like the AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS, it wouldn’t have been able to achieve battery life like what you get on the Apple MacBook Pro devices without sacrificing performance further, so it can only take so much responsibility for the disappointing battery life. That said, it could have easily added another half a pound (200g) to the battery to take the edge off the 3 hours and 38 minutes it’ll last during standard work benchmarking. 

This equates to just 4 hours and 45 minutes in movie playback, which is more than enough to watch a movie and is even ok for a gaming laptop, but it’s around half to a third of what you’ll get from Apple silicon. 

Should you buy the Gigabyte Aero 14 OLED?

Buy it if...

You need a powerful Windows laptop
The sleek, portable design is one of the lightest available and the discrete graphics card makes it capable of more demanding workloads .

Don't buy it if...

You need something that runs on battery
The Aero 14 is realistically only going to last a few hours at most if you’re working with the graphics card running, so if you need to work away from power this probably isn’t the laptop for you.

Gigabyte Aero 14: Also consider

How I tested the Gigabyte Aero 14

  • I tested it using both benchmark tests and video game benchmarks
  • I stress-tested the battery using the TechRadar movie test

I ran the Gigabyte Aero 14 through our standard suite of benchmarks to get a feel for the laptop's peak performance and to see how it compares with the best on the market.

In addition to our standard suite of testing, I also tested the device using it for a day of work to see how it fares when typing, web browsing, working and for light photo and video editing tasks. 

The screen was analysed using TechRadar's standard movie test and was compared against other screens running standard web browsing and movie editing software. 

The battery life was benchmarked with two tests to simulate different battery life scenarios.

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First reviewed August 2023

HMD launches affordable Nokia G310 5G and Nokia C210 in the US
9:20 am | August 16, 2023

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HMD Global, the maker that hold the rights for Nokia smartphones, launched two new devices on the US market. The Nokia G310 5G and Nokia C210 are already up on the company website and will be available at Metro by T-Mobile for a low price. Nokia G310 5G This Nokia comes with a Snapdragon 480+ chipset and 4/128 GB memory combination. The front panel is a 6.56” LCD with 720p resolution and a waterdrop notch for the 8 MP selfie camera. There are three shooters on the back – the main is 50 MP with AF, coupled by 2 MP depth and 2 MP macro sensors. Images can be taken with some AI...

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