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MSI Modern 14 H review: An affordable business-ready laptop

8:04 am | August 6, 2024

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MSI MODERN 14 H: Two-minute review

The MSI Modern 14 H is a low-cost, business-focused laptop that aims at providing bang for buck rather than trying to pack in every last feature. The laptop has a 14-inch frame with 31.4 x 23.6 x 1.9cm (12.4 x 9.3 x 0.73 inches) dimensions and weighs 1.6kg (3.53 lbs), making it quite portable but larger than very slim or ultralight models.

The Modern 14 H configuration featured in this review (D13MG-045AU) boasts a relatively powerful Intel i9-13900H CPU with 14 cores, 20 threads and a boost frequency up to 5.4GHz. It also has 16GB of DDR4 3200MHz RAM (upgradeable to 64GB), a 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD and a 53.8Wh battery. The 14-inch display has a resolution of 1920 x 1200 (16:10 ratio) and uses a 60Hz IPS panel with a matte coating and no touchscreen.

Along the left edge, the Modern 14 has the DC power input, a USB-C port (40Gbps Thunderbolt 4 with DisplayPort and 100W PD charging), a single USB 3.2 Type-A port and a 3.5mm headset jack. The right side has a vent and a Kensington lock, while the rear has HDMI 2.1, a 1Gb Ethernet connection and two USB-A ports. While I wish there was a USB-C connection on the rear as well as the side, the overall layout of the ports is quite neat. The top and bottom panels are metal, but the rest of the laptop shell is a surprisingly rigid, robust-feeling plastic. The included 90W power brick is a little chunkier than expected, but not outrageously large.

MSI doesn't provide the display brightness or color accuracy, but the screen is perfectly usable for office tasks. It can be laid down almost flat (but not quite a full 180º) and, when combined with the display flip hotkey, makes it easy to show what's on the screen to a person sitting across from you. The 720p webcam is serviceable (and has a physical shutter), but does not support facial recognition and there's no fingerprint reader for fast, secure logins. The keyboard is backlit and comfortable to use despite a little flex, while the trackpad is reasonably large and accurate. The speakers are nothing special but give clear audio and work well for tasks like video meetings.

Equipping the Modern 14 with an Intel i9-13900H is an interesting move, as this slightly older (2023) but relatively powerful CPU isn't often seen in more affordable laptops. Of course, real-world performance also depends on cooling, but the Modern 14 H system allows the the i9-13900H to sustain near-full CPU power in heavy workloads. While normally near-silent, the the fans become audible under load, but aren't too intrusive. The included MSI management software is straightforward and easy to use, and gives a reasonable depth of settings.

The 53.8Wh battery is not especially large, but the MSI laptop can manage a pretty decent 6 hours and 23 minutes unplugged when doing office tasks. Performance is limited to 30W on battery – though it will run at full speed on USB-C. A full charge takes up to 1.5 hours, but 50% capacity can be reached in just over 30 minutes.

Viewed from above, the MSI Modern 14 H screen folded flat — (Image credit: Future - Lindsay Handmer)

MSI Modern 14 H: Price & availability

How much does it cost? $999 / £999 / AU$1,599
When is it available? Available now
Where is it available? Available in the US, the UK and Australia

The i9-13900H MSI Modern 14 H (D13MG) tested is still hard to buy in the US and UK and costs $999 / £999 where available. It's a little more widely available in Australia, where it will set you back AU$1,599 at full price.

When shopping around, keep in mind that there are many MSI Modern 14 variants that don’t have the mighty Intel i9-13900H CPU. Models equipped with an Intel Core i5, i7, or AMD Ryzen CPUs are still great laptops, but only the H spec offers higher-end performance and 13th Gen CPUs like the i7-13620H and i9-13900H.

For those who want a larger screen, the MSI Modern 15 H (B13M) can be found for a very similar price ($999 / £999 / AU$1,599) and otherwise near-identical spec. Again, the 15 H with the i9-13900H is easiest to buy in Australia, but is available in the US without too much trouble and in the UK from limited retailers.

In Australia, the Modern 14 H stands out as excellent value amongst its often feature-packed but more expensive peers. The comparatively limited availability in the US and UK means the Modern H is often not as price competitive.

Value score: 4.5 / 5

MSI Modern 14 H left side side ports showing the DC input, USB-C, USB-A and 3.5mm audio — (Image credit: Future - Lindsay Handmer)

MSI Modern 14 H: Specs

The Modern 14 H doesn’t have a huge number of configurations, and even then not all are for sale. The main difference are the CPUs available, and the H spec laptops can have the i9-13900H, the i7-13620H and i5-13420H – though only the i9-13900H gets Intel Iris Xe graphics.

Below is the list of specs for the configuration tested for this review:

Specs score: 4 / 5

MSI Modern 14 H screen folded flat and flipped for sharing — (Image credit: Future - Lindsay Handmer)

MSI Modern 14 H: Design

Fold-flat screen
Thunderbolt 4
100W USB-C charging

The Modern 14 does an admirable job of keeping the design simple, with a focus on higher performance at an affordable price, so the lack of an IR webcam for facial login support and no fingerprint reader are minor frustrations. I wish there was a 32GB model available, but at least the laptop uses upgradeable RAM.

The Modern 14 H measures in at 31.4 x 23.6 x 1.9cm (12.4 x 9.3 x 0.73 inches), and while it does have chunky rubber feet to ensure adequate cooling space, they don’t cause any issues with even very slim laptop bags. The laptop's 1.6kg (3.53 lbs) feels very light in hand compared to the overall size.

The Modern 14 H layout is quite clean, and I appreciate the way the ports are all on the left and rear (though left handers may feel the opposite!). Still, having an extra USB-C port (with PD charging) on the rear would have been handy. The lack of SD or microSD card reader may also frustrate some buyers. On the plus side, the choice to have the USB-C port support Thunderbolt 4 with 100W PD charging means the Modern 14 H is ideal for connecting to a dock with an extra monitor or other high-speed external devices.

The Modern 14 H has a mostly plastic body, with metal top and bottom panels. The plastic is quite stiff itself and, combined with the metal, the 14-inch form doesn’t exhibit much flex at all. MSI also reports the laptop is rated to the MIL-STD-810H Military Grade Standard for toughness, and I didn't find any compromises that could result in premature failure or wear.

The Modern 14 H uses a 16:10 ratio display to give a small but welcome amount of extra vertical space compared to a 16:9 screen. The resulting resolution is 1920 x 1200, and while that may seem low, the display is quite sharp and perfectly usable in the 14-inch size. The (almost) 180º fold-flat screen is a nice addition, as well as the hotkey for flipping the display orientation to show it to someone sitting opposite. The fold-flat screen also means the laptop works great with a dock and vertical stand, though I do wish the hinge allowed a bit of extra folding so it could lay fully flat.

Design score: 3.5 / 5

MSI Modern 14 H keyboard and trackpad showing the white key backlighting — (Image credit: Future - Lindsay Handmer)

MSI Modern 14 H: Performance

Powerful CPU
Not too noisy
Fast 1TB SSD

MSI Modern 14 H: Benchmarks

Here's how the MSI Modern 14 H performed in the TechRadar suite of benchmark tests:

3DMark: Time Spy: 1,809

Cinebench R23 Multi-core: 13,337 points; Single-core: 2,029

PCMark 10: 6,510

CrystalDiskMark 8 NVMe: 5,000 MB/s (read); 3,576MB/s (write)

Sid Meier's Civilization VI: Gathering Storm (1080p, Ultra): 25fps

PCMark 10 Battery life: 6 hours and 25 minutes

1080p video playback battery life: 6 hours and 57 minutes

It’s important to remember the relatively affordable nature of the MSI Modern 14 H when considering the performance. It’s not common to see a higher-end CPU like the Intel Core i9-13900H CPU in a thin and light chassis, though the Modern 14 H opts for DDR4 RAM over DDR5 (both are supported by the CPU) to help keep costs down. The RAM runs at 3200MHz and, in this case, faster DDR5 wouldn’t give much of a performance boost.

The MSI Modern 14 H benchmarks results are excellent and it bested more expensive laptops – even those with the same or a similar CPU. This largely comes back to the MSI engineers making sure the i9-13900H is kept cool enough to run at or above its 45W thermal design power. Unfettered, the CPU can boost up to 115W, but that’s reined in and total system power is limited by the 90W adapter.

The laptop vents hot air out the rear and right side, and at full power that can result in a warmer-than-usual mousing hand. That's delightful in winter perhaps, but not as nice in a hotter environment. The MSI software in 'AI' mode does an admirable job of keeping the laptop as quiet as possible without limiting performance when needed. For those who like manual control, in performance mode, the CPU can sustain the 45W TDP for extended period, and under load the fans are plainly audible but not excessively loud.

Balanced mode drops the CPU power back to 30W, and even with heavy use, the fans are only just able to be heard. Quiet mode limits the CPU to a much more modest 20W, ensuring that even under sustained load the fans never spin fast enough to be audible. Super battery mode limits the CPU to just 15W, making many apps noticeably slower, but it still works well if maximizing battery life during lower impact tasks like video playback.

On battery, the system automatically limits the CPU to 30W – though the impact of this is only noticeable in very CPU-heavy apps. The Modern 14 H doesn’t throttle performance at all when connected to a 100W USB-C charger, and peaks at just over 90W when pushed hard.

The Modern 14 H SSD is reasonably fast overall and the laptop is well suited to work that demands higher-than-average performance. Despite the decently powerful Intel Iris Xe graphics, the overall cooling of the laptop does mean gaming performance is limited. This is expected for a business-focused laptop, but nevertheless you can still get playable frame rates out of older or less demanding games.

Performance score: 4 / 5

The MSI Modern 14 H power brick sitting behind the laptop as a size comparison — (Image credit: Future - Lindsay Handmer)

MSI Modern 14 H: Battery life

6 hours and 25 minutes work when unplugged
6 hours and 57m of video playback

The Modern 14 H has a fairly normal sized 53.8Wh battery and it gives decent but not outstanding battery life. Connected to Wi-Fi, I managed over 6 hours of office work on battery. This isn’t quite enough to get through a full day's work without a charger, but is more than enough to spend plenty of time unplugged. For less demanding tasks like video playback, the Modern 14 H can just reach 7 hours. If working the CPU hard, expect as little as 2 hours on battery, or 3 to 4 hours with medium level workloads.

The Modern 14 H will fast charge on USB-C or using its power adapter, and from 4% charge it can hit 50% in not much more than 30 minutes. A full charge takes around 1.5 hours. The battery charge efficiency is above average, and from 4% capacity it took 59.5Wh to charge the 53.8Wh battery. This means you can fully charge the laptop on a suitable 20,000mAh (74Wh) or larger power bank.

The Modern 14 H doesn’t throttle performance when connected to USB-C – meaning you can get full performance for heavy workloads when on the go by using a power bank. In my testing, a 20,000mAh (74Wh) power bank gives an extra 5 hours or so of demanding work, like video editing.

Battery life score: 4 / 5

Should you buy the MSI Modern 14 H?

Buy it if...

You need above-average performance
Thanks to the powerful Intel Core i9-13900H CPU, the Modern 14 H offers better performance compared to several more expensive laptops.

You use a USB-C dock
The Modern 14 H runs at full performance on USB-C, and has a 40Gbps Thunderbolt 4 connection with DisplayPort, so is ideal for use with a dock.

You want value for money
Despite the modest price tag, the Modern 14 H offers a mix of features that mean it is well suited to handling heavy workloads.

Don't buy it if...

You need all-day battery life
6 hours on battery is nothing to sneeze at, but it won’t get you through a full day's work without charging along the way.

You can't live without a fancy screen
The Modern 14 H display is perfectly fine for office use and folds back through 180º, but doesn’t wow compared to much more expensive OLED or higher-resolution panels.

You need 32GB of RAM
The MSI Modern 14 H doesn’t have a configuration equipped with 32GB of RAM – though the memory is user upgradable.

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How I tested the MSI Modern 14 H

I tested the MSI Modern 14 H for two weeks
I used it both on a desk with a dock, and when on the go
I tested it with benchmarking tools, as well as battery and power logging

I ran the MSI Modern 14 H through the usual comprehensive array of TechRadar benchmarks, as well as using it for actual day to day work.

I used the TechRadar movie test for assessing battery life during video playback, as well as running productivity-focused battery benchmarks. I also logged power use in a variety of scenarios, including when charging from USB-C, or running from a power bank.

EnGenius ECW536: Design

The EnGenius access point ships with one accessory box containing the mounting kit. Once installed, the unit locks to the base by rotating it. The white plastic enclosure has a metal backplate that doubles as a heat dissipator. Two Ethernet connectors and a 12V DC socket at the back connect to the network. A small hole is also present to reset the device using a paper clip. The case gets warm after some time, eventually reaching 50 degrees Celcius. The access point measures 23 cm x 23 cm x 37 mm and weighs 1.3kg.

The ECW536 uses a Qualcomm Pro 1220 multichip design. The processor is a fast quad-core ARM A73 CPU, which can support up to eight SSIDs on the 2.4GHz and 5/6GHz bands. There are also built-in VLAN tagging and a QoS for increased bandwidth management. Complementing the CPU are 2GB of RAM, 256MB of Flash, and two 10G Ethernet interfaces, which also support 5G, 2.5G, 1G, and 10/100Mbps.

Three Wi-Fi radios each serve a specific frequency while supporting four spatial streams, the twelve paths aggregating for a throughput of 18Gbps. Maximum transmit gains, which depend on country location, vary between 24dBm and 25dBm, while antenna gains vary between 5dBi and 6dBi.

The ECW536 access point consumes 13W without connected clients, which increases to 20W when one user actively uses the AP. A single multicolor LED gives feedback on the unit’s operation and is a departure from the past Wi-Fi 6 version, which had four LEDs. The AP is ready when the LED is green. Blue indicates that there is at least one connected client. The user can adjust the LED’s brightness through the mobile app.

EnGenius ECW536 front — (Image credit: Future)

EnGenius ECW536: In Use

Setting up the access point can be done entirely through the mobile app, which is available for Android and iOS platforms. The user needs an account to begin the installation. The AP and other EnGenius units can be added using a QR code on the back of each unit.

To fully utilize the Wi-Fi7 bandwidth, we strongly recommend connecting the AP to a 10Gb Ethernet LAN supporting PoE with at least 50W of available power. The ECW536 LED will blink orange if the PoE switch cannot provide sufficient power. Thus, the optional power socket becomes handy with an external 12V supply and completes the setup.

The mobile application offers features similar to those available on the cloud portal. The convenience of controlling access to the Wi-Fi network at one’s fingertips is very enticing. The user can also see what device consumes the most bandwidth at any time. However, the most helpful thing remains the ability to check the access point’s health from any place with Internet access.

The ECW536 offers mesh capability to increase signal reach; the AP can connect to other ECW536 units or previous-generation models such as ECS230S. There are obvious reasons to use one against the other. In a Wi-Fi 6 infrastructure, the ECW536 will mesh using one of its four 160MHz backhaul channels, providing a maximum of 1.4Gbps as throughput. On the other hand, using several ECW536 yields the best range and throughput since the backhaul is now over Wi-Fi 7 at 2.9Gbps.

EnGenius ECW536 back — (Image credit: Future)

EnGenius ECW536: The competition

Upgrading from something other than Wi-Fi 6 to Wi-Fi 7 should be a sound investment for the next few years, mainly because of the higher throughput offered by the denser 4096 QAM encoding. Still, fierce competition in consumer-level routers continues to drive prices down. The ECW536 comes with more technical support and an overall better performance when compared to consumer products.

Based on the same Qualcomm technology, the Zyxel WBE660S provides a similar throughput and range compared to the ECW536, while the Zyxel AP costs less than the EnGenius. A second 10G Ethernet port on the ECW536 turns it into a 10G switch, something lacking on the WBE660S. The ECW536 is also more compact and lighter, making installation a breeze compared to the WBE660S. Finally, the EnGenius AP consumes less energy than Zyxel’s access point, resulting in a device that will last longer while costing less electricity.

EnGenius ECW536: Final verdict

Thanks to the new Wi-Fi 7 standard, the EnGenius ECW536 takes wireless networks to the next level by adding more range and bandwidth. The range should be as good as previous 5GHz access points. The increase in bandwidth results from using a better encoding algorithm, quadrupling the throughput compared to Wi-Fi 6. These gains come with higher power dissipation and a more expensive unit. A 10G LAN infrastructure supporting PoE is required to use the AP to its fullest potential.

EnGenius offers a 5-year warranty on the ECW536 and customer support via online chat, phone, or email. The AP has cloud access, allowing network inspection and problem resolution remotely.

Buy the ECW536 if:

You are starting a new network that requires lots of bandwidth and range.

Dont buy the ECW536 if:

You already have a Wi-Fi 6 AP fleet from another manufacturer

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Honor MagicBook Art 14 2024 arrives with Core Ultra 5 or Core Ultra 7, up to 32GB of RAM

4:29 pm | July 12, 2024

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At its big event today Honor not only took the wraps off of the Magic V3 and Magic Vs3 smartphones, but also unveiled the MagicBook Art 14 2024 laptop. This one weighs 1.03kg and is 12.95mm thick, sporting a 14.6-inch OLED screen with a 3:2 aspect ratio, 700-nit typical brightness, and 3,120x2,080 resolution. You can have it with a choice of Intel Core Ultra 5 125H or Core Ultra 7 155H, with Intel Arc graphics. The laptop comes with a 1TB SSD, and supports LPDDR5X RAM. It has six speakers with spatial audio and DTS support, and a 60Wh battery that fully charges in 95 minutes and gets...

Honor MagicBook Pro 16 laptop review

7:42 pm | July 1, 2024

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Honor MagicBook Pro 16: 30-second review

Specs

CPU: Intel® Core™ Ultra 5 processor 125H
Graphics: Intel® Arc™ graphics
RAM: 24GB
Storage: 1TB
Rear Ports: USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 ports, HDMI 2.0
Front Ports: USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 port, Thunderbolt 4
Connectivity: 2x2 MIMO antennas, Wi-Fi 6 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax, 2.4GHz and 5GHz, and Bluetooth 5.1.
Audio: 3.5mm
Camera: webcam
Size: 354 x 242 x 19.9mm
Weight: 1.79kg
OS installed: Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Accessories: None

The Honor MagicBook Pro 16 2024 is an impressive-looking laptop from the outset, with sleek black lines and sharp edges, instantly giving it an ultra-stylish and modern look.

Like the many of the best business laptops we've reviewed, the build quality of the Aluminium Alloy case highlights the MagicBook Pro as something more than your average Windows work laptop, giving it both a premium and robust feel. When closed, the laptop exterior is kept simple with a sleek, subtle wedge-like design that makes it easy to slip into a laptop bag, while when open, that design gives the keyboard a subtle yet comfortable angle when in use. Likewise, the rest of the exterior is plain, with just two USB ports on the side along with a 3.5mm audio socket and two USBs on the back with an HDMI - just what you want for business use.

The unusual positioning of the two USB Type-A ports and HDMI at the back enables easy connection to multimedia docs, making it an ideal solution when giving a presentation from a lectern or board room. With wires clear of the sides of the machine, additional notes, drinks, and props can be placed back onto the surface without being obstructed by wires, helping to keep things neat and professional.

Opening the lid and the large 16-inch screen is clear and bright, with plenty of scope for adjustment. Starting the test with a little office work, the high-resolution screen of 3072 x 1920 gives plenty of space for laying out windows and flicking between office apps. If you need more screen real estate then there's the HDMI or Thunderbolt 4 port to connect up to additional monitors. Used for standard office applications such as Word, Excel and PowerPoint, along with a browser for research, the laptop handles all with ease, with the AI working unnoticed in the background to allocate resources when and where needed.

The actuation of the full keyboard is decent enough with a good feel to the keys and responsiveness. However, some of the keyboard feels a little crammed in, and miss types are easy with the "Enter" and right-hand "Shift" keys, both reduced in size and surrounded by the number pad and cursor keys without the usual gap. The touchpad is of a decent size and, again, responsive, but there's a slight tinniness to the feel, and it lacks some of the quality you expect with premium laptops. However, this is mid-range.

Switching the laptop's use to creative apps such as Photoshop, the machine is able to handle files with relative ease and is powerful enough to build up multi-layer projects from files from the Canon EOS R5. When using Photoshop, additional storage is a good idea as there's only 1TB internally, and with the option of USB or Thunderbolt 4 ports, you have two speedy connection options.

Taking a look at video editing, the laptop does start to struggle with 4K footage - so this won't replace the best video editing laptops any time soon. Straight editing is handled, but complex compositions start to see the system slow, although it still impresses with what it is able to handle. As with photography, when video editing, an external SSD can be connected to boost storage, and again, the Thunderbolt 4 or USB 4 ports make a big difference to the overall performance.

Finally, used in a lecture theater, the rear port connection makes connection easy, and the space around the machine is welcome. The long battery life is also welcome, as the machine happily remained self-powered through a three-hour lecture running a presentation without pause.

Overall, this is a powerful laptop with plenty of flexibility for use in and out of the office. While creatives may find the size of the internal SSD a little limiting, most will find this space more than adequate, and the balance of the power and abilities are finely tuned for everyday work from spreadsheets and documents to larger-scale presentations.

Honor MagicBook Pro 16: Introduction

Honour makes several variants of the MagicBook Pro 16, and in this review, we'll be looking at the Honor MagicBook Pro 16 2024, with the mid-range Intel Core Ultra 5 CPU and Intel Arc GPU. While the internals of the various models may be different, the external aluminium alloy casing is much the same and gives the machine a stylish high-quality look and feel. This model is also available in two colour variants, either white or purple, although the purple is closer to grey, making it an ideal solution for everyday office use.

The Core Ultra 5 is the entry-level of the new range of Intel CPUs and features built-in AI abilities and far more processing power than we've seen in previous entry level CPUs. The CPU's performance when coupled with integrated graphics is impressive, especially when pushed to handle larger documents and files across multiple different apps, a task previous generations of the processors at this level might have struggled with, however here, this machine is it's able to intelligently allocate resources where needed and run those applications smoothly.

While this laptop only features integrated graphics, the Intel Arc GPU is surprisingly powerful and can handle creative tasks and applications that are well beyond the capabilities of many laptops in this price range. Both Photoshop and Premiere Pro can run and handle relatively complex projects, although an external SSD is a good idea for additional storage.

The Honor MagicBook Pro 16 is an interesting laptop designed as a powerful mid-range solution with a premium build and solid hardware that should offer most professional users the power and features they need.

Honor MagicBook Pro 16: Price & availability

How much does it cost? 1299,90 EUROS
When is it available? Available now
Where can you get it? Available in France and China

The 2024 Honor MagicBook Pro 16 is available in France for €1299 and in China for ¥6299. This laptop is designed for professionals and features an Intel Core Ultra 5 processor and Intel Arc graphics, a 16-inch 3K display with 100% DCI-P3 colour gamut, and TÜV Rheinland certifications for eye protection. The sleek, aluminium alloy design ensures durability and style, while its performance supports both office and light creative use. With a 75Wh battery offering up to 12 hours of use and fast charging capabilities, it is ideal for both office and creative work.

For more details, visit the Honor product page by clicking here.

Price: 4/5

Honor MagicBook Pro 16: Design & build

The Honor MagicBook Pro 16 features a sleek aluminium alloy outer casing that gives the laptop a durable, stylish, and modern look. The materials and finish give it a solid build quality that surpasses that of many laptops in this price range. The subtle slim wedge shape design gives the laptop an ergonomic feel and not only makes it comfortable to carry but also easy to slip into a laptop bag. When it comes to doing some work and the laptop is opened, this shape subtle slant provides a comfortable platform when typing over longer periods.

When it comes to weight, the two colour variants are weighted differently which is slightly strange. The Purple version, which is more grey, is the lighter of the two options at 1.79 kg, while the white comes in at 1.83 kg. Both models feel reassuringly premium when it comes to build quality and this feeling of quality continues as you open the lid to reveal the screen. The 16.1-inch display is bright and crisp, featuring 100% DCI-P3 colour gamut coverage, 500 nits brightness, and a 3072 x 1920 resolution.

The overall design feels premium; however, while this is an expensive machine, in real terms, it's in the mid-range of professional laptops suited for everyday office use rather than home gaming or intensive creative work. As such, the design is simple, and this simplicity is evident through the layout of ports: a 3.5mm audio socket, USB-C 3.2 Gen2 (10Gbps), and Thunderbolt 4 (40Gbs) are on the side. On the back, which is an unusual position, are two USB-A 3.2 Gen1 and an HDMI 2.1, which supports 4K @ 60Hz, making it ideal for presentations and multimedia connections.

The ports' rear positioning is an interesting design choice, making them ideal for connecting to presentation systems and docks.

Another interesting feature is the full keyboard with a 1.5mm actuation distance and a 134.2mm x 81.2mm touchpad that supports multi-touch. When it comes to biometric features, there is a fingerprint power button with a touch sensor, but the small camera doesn't allow Windows Hello. The 1080P FHD front camera supports video recording and video chat and is equipped with an indicator for privacy.

As you'd expect, audio is well covered with six speakers delivering Spatial Audio and DTS effects, along with two microphones, all designed to give you the best quality for video streaming and online meetings.

When it comes to power, there are the usual options, AC through the Thunderbolt 4 port, which enables a 65w fast charge to the laptop's 75Wh battery. In normal use this battery offers approximately 12 hours of usage on a single charge, and fast charging can boost the charge to about 55% in 30 minutes.

Ultimately, this laptop is designed for professionals who need a reliable machine for the workplace. It is capable of plugging into a docking station, supporting intensive work on the go, and connecting to projectors and multimedia with ease and neatness. The size and weight, combined with a robust build, all come together to ensure that it can withstand being carried around safely in a suitable laptop bag.

Design: 3.5/5

Honor MagicBook Pro 16: Features

The Honor MagicBook Pro 16 is a laptop aimed at working professionals and combines looks with ability. However, whereas other manufacturers boost the basics with additions such as card readers, discrete graphics, and more, this version of the MagicBook Pro 16 2024 focuses its abilities on those who need a powerful laptop for work.

As such, it offers a large 16-inch 3K display with a 3072 x 1920 resolution and a 165Hz refresh rate, which means that it can display spreadsheets, word documents, and multimedia presentations smoothly. Backing up the resolution is 100% DCI-P3 colour gamut support and 500 nits of brightness, all helping to ensure accurate and bright colour, making it a decent choice for creative professionals. It also includes TÜV Rheinland certifications for low blue light and flicker-free viewing, protecting your eyes during prolonged use.

Inside is one of the latest Intel Core Ultra 5 processors 125H with a base frequency of 1.2 GHz, boosting up to 4.5 GHz. Intel Arc graphics complements this 14-core processor. While this isn't a separate GPU, this integrated graphics chip is still capable of delivering substantial power for multitasking and graphics-intensive applications such as Illustrator and Photoshop. In this review, our laptop features 24GB of LPDDR5X RAM and a 1TB SSD, all helping to ensure fast load times and a decent amount of storage for general use and applications. If you are looking at using this for more creative endeavours, then an external SSD would be a good idea.

One of the most interesting features of the Honor MagicBook Pro 16 is the all-new AI NPU chip integrated with the Intel processor. This AI chip has been designed to support a variety of applications, including real-time translation and automated reasoning, and this is all down to the large language model of up to 20 billion parameters. These AI capabilities enable the laptop to perform sophisticated tasks without requiring an internet connection, significantly improving efficiency. These additional features are handled through the Honor Software offerings that are pre-installed.

When you set up the laptop, you have two Honor applications that feature some of the AI abilities, such as Honor Connect, which enables you to switch tasks intelligently between devices; Smart Reminders, which enhance the more you use them, and the ability to tether with your smartphone when needed easily. Most of these features are based on preserving battery power as well as being exteremly useful. The other app is Honor PC Manager, and this keeps an eye on the health and performance of your machine, depending on how you're using it. One of the main features here is the Smart Mode that adjusts the power settings depending on what you're doing, or if you just want full power, then you can switch to the high-performance option, although this does create more noise from the cooling system and shorter battery life. There's even a keyboard short cut of Fn + P to make the switch manually if you need a power boost, but you need to be on the desktop for this to work rather than within an App.

In other applications, such as Microsoft Office, the AI chip can optimize system resources to ensure a responsive experience. Even with large documents and complex spreadsheets, the idea is that you can work on multiple applications simultaneously without experiencing slowdowns. In all cases the AI works in the background handling the resources and allocations and ultimately helping to avoid slowdowns.

The most impressive angle for the AI chip is the ability to manage resources, especially for intensive creative applications used for photo and video editing. In Photoshop and Lightroom, the AI can assist in automated tasks like selecting subjects or applying filters. In Premiere Pro, AI-driven enhancements can speed up rendering times and general performance with 4K resolution footag

As always, connectivity options are incredibly important, especially for a work laptop. Here, there's Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5.1, and support for HONOR Magic-link for integration with Honor smartphones and tablets. The port selection around the laptop is minimal, with a USB-C 3.2 Gen2 port, a Thunderbolt 4 port, two USB-A 3.2 Gen1 ports, an HDMI 2.1 port, and a 3.5mm audio jack.

The laptop's battery, 75Wh, keeps it powered away from AC power. Honor quotes this battery as being able to supply up to 12 hours of usage on a single charge. A good feature is support for fast charging, which means that it can reach a 55% battery capacity in 30 minutes and a full charge in 70 minutes.

The MagicBook Pro 16's keyboard is quite unusual. It's a full-size keyboard with a 1.5mm actuation distance and a large touchpad supporting multi-touch gestures. Regarding security, there's a convenient fingerprint power button, making it quick to access the laptop when needed.

Finally, audio is covered with a six-speaker sound system that enables Spatial Audio and DTS effects. Dual microphones help ensure clear voice capture when you're making video calls and recordings, and the 1080P FHD front camera handles visuals.

Features: 4/5

Honor MagicBook Pro 16: Performance

Benchmarks

3DMark Wild Life:
Graphics Score: 21257
Fire Strike:
Overall: 7867
Graphics Score: 8467
Physics Score: 21629
Combined Score: 3166
Time Spy:
Overall: 3341
Graphics Score: 3009
CPU Score: 8958
Night Raid: 27643
Graphics: 35347
CPU: 12369

Cinebench R23:
Multi-Core Score: 12605
Single-Core Score: 1602

GeekBench 5:
Multi-Core Score: 11361
Single-Core Score: 2189
GPU: 27070

CrystalDiskMark:
Read Speed: 4998.81
Write Speed: 3509.50

PCMark 10:
Score: 6980

Windows Experience Index:
Score: 8.2

Display

sRGB Accuracy: 100%, Adobe RGB: 88%, P3 99%
Gamut: 5 out of 5
Tone response: 3.5 out of 5
White Point: 4.5 out of 5
Contrast: 5.0 out of 5
Luminance: 4 out of 5
Colour Uniformity: 4.5 out of 5
Colour Accuracy: 3.5 out of 5
Overall: 4 out of 5

The Honor MagicBook Pro 16 2024 is aimed at professionals who need a well-made, high-quality laptop that will enable fast loading of applications and documents as well as the ability to easily link into systems and adapt to a variety of work situations. The style of the laptop reflects this with a sleek, professional design that will look at home in any city office, workplace meeting or presentation.

The machine is powered by the Intel Core Ultra 5 processor 125H, which has a base frequency of 1.2 GHz and automatically boosts up to 4.5 GHz when needed, such as when multitasking or using more power-intensive applications such as Photoshop or DaVinci Resolve. When used for day-to-day work, such as switching between various Microsoft Office applications like Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, the machine handles all programs with ease, and there's no lag or hesitation as you switch from one to the other

Taking a look at the benchmark tests, the MagicBook Pro 16 mirrors the real-world performance with the results from the tests. Using Microsoft Office applications, the laptop is fast and responsive, with large Word documents loading quickly and mid-sized Excel spreadsheets with multiple formulas and data points being easy to open and navigate. When it came to more graphics-intensive applications such as PowerPoint, the laptop's Intel Arc graphics handled the stock transitions and animations through the presentations that were tested well.

One of the points that will interest many creative professionals is the P3 display. In Photoshop, the high-resolution 3K display with 100% DCI-P3 colour gamut coverage does help to ensure that images are vibrant and colours look accurate on screen. We used a DataColor Spyder X2 to calibrate the monitor prior to testing. With the latest version of Photoshop loaded, editing high-resolution photos taken on a Canon EOS R5 proved to be a fluid process with fast reaction times for the dodge-and-burn, selection and Generative AI tools. When enhancing the images, even when working with multiple layers and complex effects the machine was able to handle the work with ease. In Lightroom, the laptop handles large photo libraries effortlessly, making it easy to sort, edit, and export images quickly.

Video editing in DaVinci really put the Intel Core Ultra 5 processor, Intel Arc graphics, 24GB of LPDDR5X RAM, and a 1TB SSD to the test. Here, the laptop handles multiple video tracks, effects, and transitions with relative ease. However, it is possible to see the limitations of the hardware and the Windows operating system with codecs and multiple other bits of software required to play back native Canon RAW video files. 1080p video edits smoothly and easily, 4K up to 5 minutes with a couple of tracks and effects is fine, but as you build the complexity of the production, the machine does start to slow down, which is expected.

One surprising aspect, as the machine's abilities are pushed, is the effectiveness of the cooling system, which keeps temperatures in check even during intensive tasks. During video editing, the machine stayed quiet due to the cooling system, which seems to show that the 12mm composite pipe system works.

Honor states that the 75Wh battery is able to provide approximately 12 hours of usage on a single charge. In our real-world test, we ran the various benchmark tests, Photoshop, DaVinci, and the Microsoft Office apps. At that time, we had around five hours of intensive use with around 20% left. With the fast charge, you can get the level back up within 30 minutes, and just over an hour sees you back at full power. It's worth noting that the charger needs to be the correct type, and not all USB Type-C chargers will work in the Thunderbolt 4 port.

In general performance, the laptop proved ideal for office and presentation-based work, with the power of the hardware more than capable of handling almost any document or presentation you could wish to throw at it. When it came to creative tasks, again, this is a powerful, if understated, laptop. The P3 display is good, and our test proved 88% Adobe RGB accurate, which is a consideration for photographers. Videographers will be happy with the colour profiles and accuracy as well. For basic onsite editing with an external SSD, this laptop with the correct codecs installed will happily enable you to edit basic video productions ideal for work and social.

Considering the laptop's cost, its performance is exceptional. It handles Office applications with absolute ease, and Photoshop proved well within its limits. But using one of the best video editing software we've tried, DaVinci Resolve, admittedly started to push the machine's limits, but for general editing of short corporate videos and social posts, this machine will be more than happy to handle that type of work.

AI is a big part of this new chipset and you are aware that AI processing is going on in the background, and holding down the Fn button and P enables you to switch between the power modes when needed. In this test, that boost was when dragging new 4K footage into the Premiere Pro sequence.

Performance: 4/5

Should you buy the Honor MagicBook Pro 16?

If you're looking for a laptop that blends stylish looks, high-performance and price, then Honor MagicBook Pro 16 is an excellent choice. The sleek design, mid-range yet powerful internals, and AI-driven enhancements that come with the latest chipset and Honor software make this a great all-rounder. However, if you require extensive internal storage or a dedicated GPU for video or 3D work, possibly a bit of high-end gaming then opt for the version with the dedicated NVidia graphics. Also, while the full keyboard is great for general office work, it does take some getting used to the smaller enter and shift keys surrounded by the number pad.

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Minisforum V3 3-in-1 tablet review

7:11 pm |

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Minisforum V3: 30-second review

Specs

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7840U
Graphics: AMD Radeon 780M
RAM: 32GB LPDDR5
Storage: Up to 2TB M.2 PCIe SSD
Rear Ports: None specified for the rear
Front Ports: Dual USB4, USB-C, SD card slot, 3.5mm headphone jack
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth 5.3
Audio: Built-in speakers, 3.5mm headphone jack
Camera: Front-facing camera with Windows Hello facial recognition
Size: 311.7 x 220.8 x 9.8 mm
OS Installed: Windows 11 Pro
Accessories: 4096-level pressure stylus, keyboard cover (Optional)

The Minisforum V3 AMD Tablet instantly stands out with its high-end specifications, which are more typically found in gaming mini PCs. The AMD Ryzen 7 7840U processor delivers exceptional performance, making it suitable for demanding tasks like 4K video editing and photo editing in applications such as DaVinci Resolve, Photoshop, and Lightroom Classic. This power is complemented by a vibrant 14-inch display that supports a wide P3 colour gamut and 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity, again making it ideal for creative professionals and a challenge to the excellent Wacom Screens, even with that lower range of sensitivity. The tablet's ability to switch seamlessly between laptop and tablet modes, thanks to its optional keyboard cover, is another advantage.

Despite its impressive performance - a hybrid of the best mini PCs and the best business tablets - the V3 has a couple of drawbacks. The battery life is shorter when gaming or video editing, and the device tends to get hot under pressure. The optional keyboard, while functional, feels a bit flimsy compared to the premium build of the tablet itself. This generally isn't an issue; however, when using it on your lap, it starts to feel a little disjointed due to the cover-style connection between the keyboard and tablet.

When it comes to the design and build quality, the V3's magnesium alloy body makes it relatively lightweight at 946 grams and exceptionally thin at 9.8mm thick. Hence, it tucks neatly into a backpack slot. The overall design is sleek and modern, with the front mostly covered by the screen, which includes a front-facing camera with Windows Hello facial recognition.

When it comes to value for money, the V3 is competitive, especially when compared to similar devices like the Microsoft Surface Pro. It offers superb performance thanks to its AMD Ryzen processor and high-quality display. However, the Surface Pro may have an edge when it comes to the quality of the optional keyboard.

Minisforum V3: Price & availability

How much does it cost? $1,199
When is it available? Available now
Where can you get it? Available now

The Minisforum V3 AMD Tablet features specifications more commonly found in Mini PCs, with the AMD Ryzen 7 7840U processor for tasks like 4K video editing and photo editing. Its 14-inch 2.5K display supports a wide P3 colour gamut and 4096 pressure sensitivity levels, perfect for creatives.

The V3, priced at $1,199 in the US and approximately £999 in the UK, is competitive with devices like the Microsoft Surface Pro.

Value: 4 / 5

Minisforum V3: Design & build

The Minisforum V3 AMD Tablet features a sleek design with flat edges and rounded corners. It is constructed from a magnesium alloy that feels both durable and relatively lightweight. The tablet weighs 946 grams and measures 311.7 x 220.8 x 9.8 mm, making it easy to carry around at home, in the office, or out on-site. After using the tablet extensively, it's obvious that the build quality is very high.

During the test, the V3 was coupled with the cover, keyboard, and touch-sensitive pen, which helped protect it and added to its versatility. The keyboard, while good, doesn't quite meet the quality of finish of the V3, and a slightly more solid version of the keyboard in a future release would be a welcome addition. The pen, in contrast, is superb, adding to the abilities of the tablet, especially incompatible applications.

One issue that a tablet with this amount of power will have is heat, and across the top of the tablet, there are two sectioned vent slots. Inside is a dual fan system and four heat-conducting copper pipes, all helping to ensure the inner workings remain as cool as possible.

The V3 also incorporates some other nifty features, including a dual-function power button with an integrated fingerprint sensor and Windows Hello facial recognition.

When it comes to battery life, inside is a high-capacity 50.82Wh battery that enables over eight hours of normal use on a single charge; gaming and high-demand apps will, of course, dramatically reduce this time. As well as running on the battery, there is, of course, main support, and the V3 utilises a 65W PD for fast charging.

An interesting feature is the Minisforum Space application, which enables you to monitor the computer and its performance. It also enables you to switch modes, so if you prefer battery life over performance, you can switch to the Power Save mode in the system manager; if you need more power for video editing or gaming, you can use the Power Premium mode, and for more general use, you can use Power Balance.

Optional extras include a 4096-level pressure stylus and a detachable keyboard cover. The stylus is perfect for drawing, note-taking, and enhancing photos, while the keyboard is a great addition if you want the tablet to double up as a laptop.

Design: 4.5/5

Minisforum V3: Features

The Minisforum V3 AMD Tablet is packed with features that will appeal to power users and creatives, especially photographers and videographers looking for a sleek computing solution. At the heart of the V3 is the AMD Ryzen 7 7840U processor with 8 cores and 16 threads. The CPU is partnered with 32GB of LPDDR5 RAM and an AMD Radeon 780M GPU.

The tablet's large 14-inch display fronts it, offering a 2.5K resolution of 2560 x 1600 pixels and a 165Hz refresh rate. Its support for a wide P3 colour gamut and 500 nits of brightness makes it ideal for video and photography and enables it to be calibrated for professional use.

Other additions include AI features made possible through AMD Ryzen AI, which enable functionalities like eye contact correction and automatic framing. Again, in the software is the Minisforum space, which enables you to access a range of impressive software features that tune the machine to the way you use it and also enable you to monitor its health.

When it comes to connectivity, the V3 has dual USB4 ports, a USB-C port, an SD card slot, and a 3.5mm headphone jack, alongside Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3 support.

Enhanced security features are always important, especially for any portable devices, and here, the V3 includes Windows Hello facial recognition and a fingerprint sensor, all helping to ensure quick access once you register your details. Beyond the tablet, there are a series of accessories, including a 4096-level pressure stylus and a keyboard cover.

Features: 4/5

Minisforum V3: Performance

Benchmarks

Crystal Disk Read: 4805.85MB/s
Crystal Disk Write: 3894.29MB/s
GeekBench CPU Single: 10290
GeekBench CPU Multi: 2471
GeekBench Compute: 27288
PC Mark: 6525
CineBench CPU Multi: 9052
CineBench CPU Single: 730
Fire Strike Overall: 6819
Fire Strike Graphics: 7328
Fire Strike Physics: 20690
Fire Strike Combined: 2650
Time Spy Overall: 2394
Time Spy Graphics: 2133
Time Spy CPU: 7843
Wild Life: 15011
Windows Experience: 8.2

Through the test, the Minisforum V3's performance has impressed for a variety of different uses and applications, proving that it is a solid tool for professionals who need a powerful tablet device. This power, coupled with the outstanding screen, makes it a perfect solution for creatives who need to run the Adobe suite of apps such as Photoshop, Premiere, and Illustrator. The powerful AMD Ryzen 7 7840U processor not only enables these apps to run as if they were on a far larger desktop machine but this performance is also reflected in the benchmark scores.

During the test, the machine was mainly used on the Power Balance setting, which gave the best of both power and performance for a range of tasks, including creative, office, and gaming. When testing the gaming features, the performance was increased to Power Premium, which gave the machine a slight yet noticeable boost in graphics smoothness.

In terms of general productivity, the V3 handles Microsoft Office applications with ease, with the 14-inch screen providing a decent amount of real estate to the interface for both Word and Excel. For everyday use, when you switch between apps and countless browser tabs, the GeekBench CPU Single score of 10290 and PC Mark score of 6525 reinforce this performance.

When it comes to use for creative professionals, the graphics and processing capabilities powered by the AMD Radeon 780M GPU enable the apps to work quickly with multi-layer images in Photoshop, handling high-resolution images from the Canon EOS R5 C well. The GeekBench Compute score of 27288 is a good indicator of the performance in Adobe Photoshop and DaVinci Resolve. Tasks such as photo editing, applying filters, rendering videos, and real-time previews are all handled well - it might not replace the best laptops for photo editing or the best video editing laptops, but performance is better than you might expect. Backing up the power of the CPU and GPU is the 1TB internal SSD, which, when tested, produced impressive scores from CrystalDiskMark: read and write speeds of 4805.85MB/s and 3894.29MB/s, respectively. This is at the top end for mini PCs and tablets.

One thing to watch when using more demanding applications is the heat. The frame of the tablet becomes hot to the touch after a couple of hours of intensive video editing with external accessories such as hard drives connected. When switched to the Power Premium mode, the fans really start to kick in to help keep things cool under demanding processing

3D applications and CAD software also benefit from the V3's capabilities. The CineBench CPU Multi score of 9052 and CPU Single score of 730, combined with the Fire Strike Overall score of 6819 and Time Spy CPU score of 7843, show the ability to handle 3D modelling, rendering, and simulation tasks well, although not quite with the ease of larger desktop machines. This would make the V3 a great choice if you are an architect, engineer, or designer looking for a portable solution for work.

Although not in the professional remit of use, if you did want to dive into a little gaming after some graphics-intensive work, the Fire Strike Graphics score of 7328 and Wild Life score of 15011 reflect the tablet's ability to provide a smooth gaming experience and high frame rates in less demanding titles. Higher-demand games such as Red Dead Redemption and Cyberpunk 2077 will also run well, although the heat does rise through extended play. Plugging into a power source is a good idea, as you'll only get a couple of hours of gameplay on a single charge.

Performance: 4 / 5

Should you buy the Minisforum V3?

If you are a creative professional or are looking for a portable device that offers close to desktop-level performance, the Minisforum V3 is an excellent choice. The AMD Ryzen 7 processor, high-resolution display, and connectivity options make it a great choice for a range of demanding applications.

However, if you prioritise long battery life for creative applications, then a full-blown laptop might be a better option.

As Windows tablets go, the power, function and features of the V3 are impressive considering the price, making it a great all-around option if you need a tablet with the power of a PC.

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HP Spectre Foldable 17 review: a flagship screen and hugely versatile device, but it’s fatally flawed

6:07 pm | June 25, 2024

Author: admin | Category: Computers Computing Gadgets Laptops | Tags: CPU, GPU, RAM | Comments: Off

Two-minute review

HP’s Spectre Foldable 17 is, on the surface, an interesting device. If you were to look at the product page or any of the marketing material for the Foldable 17, no doubt you’d be impressed with the folding OLED panel, its crisp resolution, and the insane versatility that comes with it.

That magnetic keyboard, shifting the display up and altering the resolution automatically, and the fact you can use it as a fully-fledged all-in-one PC, or a 17-inch tablet at the drop of a hat, is no word of a lie – and incredibly enticing. But really, that’s all a mirage, a ghostly silhouette of what – at its core – is a significantly flawed product.

Right now, there’s one spec available for the HP Spectre Foldable. It’s priced at $5,000 retail in the US (£4,850 in the UK, or AU$8,499 in Australia), and features an Intel Core i7-1250U processor, 16GB of LPDDR5 RAM (running at 5200MHz), a 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSD, and a 94.3Wh battery.

That’s honestly all there really is to say about it. You get a pen, a USB dock, along with a (fairly average) detachable Bluetooth laptop substitute keyboard-and-mouse-combo-thing, and that’s it. And it’s the hardware that really drives the nail into the coffin.

Yes, the screen is good – it’s a beautifully crisp OLED panel that recreates colors to an exceptional degree. It’s stunning to look at, bright at 500 nits, and can even shift its resolution from 1,920 x 2,560 to 1,920 x 1,820 depending on how you position that keyboard. But, here’s the thing: you’re paying effectively $5,000 for a screen with a bit of hardware attached. And that hardware doesn’t perform as well as laptops that are a fifth the cost of this HP offering. Huawei’s MateBook D 16 for example, or Dell’s XPS 13 Plus, or literally any other laptop really, will outperform this device. And that’s a problem.

If all you need is a laptop to edit documents on (and I’ll caveat that with “not large spreadsheets”), watch a bit of Netflix, and stream a touch of YouTube, then yes the HP Spectre Foldable will fit the bill. Yes, you can technically use it as an all-in-one or a tablet to do that as well, but then you’re paying $5,000 for that privilege when, to be frank, you could probably get as much, if not better, performance out of an OLED TV for half the cost.

HP Spectre Foldable 17: Price and availability

HP Spectre Foldable review — Windows still isn’t quite set up for tablets as well as it should be (Image credit: Future / Zak Storey)

How much does it cost? $5,000 / £4,850 / AU$8,499
When is it out? It’s available right now
Where can you get it? In the US, UK, and Australia

The price for the HP Spectre Foldable 17 is eye-watering. There is only one model available, priced at $5,000, or £4,850 in the UK, or if you live in Australia, AU$8,499.

This device goes by different names dependent on the region (Foldable in the US and Australia, or just Fold in the UK), but they are effectively the same model. All of them feature that 17-inch OLED panel, 16GB of soldered LPDDR5 RAM, and an Intel Core i7-1250U at their heart.

As to where you can buy the Spectre, the places to go are Amazon and Best Buy in the US, Amazon in the UK, and the HP store directly in Australia. There’s another big problem with the price, though, and that’s the fact that the Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED exists, certainly in the UK anyway.

On paper, and to be honest, even at a quick glance, these two products are pretty much identical. The one difference being the Zenbook 17 Fold comes in (for the exact same spec) at a much lower £3,299 as standard (although we’ve seen it as low as £2,299). You can buy the Asus Fold in the US, but only from eBay sellers at this point, for similarly low prices.

Value: 1.5 / 5

HP Spectre Foldable 17: Design and Features

Beautiful display
Materials are solid
Port selection is disappointing

So we’ve established that this is a premium product. The Foldable certainly doesn’t pull any punches when it comes to that price tag, but the same can’t quite be said for the overall design, however.

Let’s start by addressing the good points. That OLED display is incredible. As standard it’s a 17-inch foldable screen that comes with a 2.5K resolution, 500 nits of brightness in HDR mode, and a ton of the usual features (including low blue light and brightview modes). It packs 1.07 billion colors into that array and produces a phenomenal 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio to back it up.

HP Spectre Foldable 17 specs

CPU: Intel Core i7-1250U
GPU: Intel Iris Xe Graphics
RAM: 16GB LPDDR5-5200
Storage: 1TB PCIe 4.0 SSD
Display: 17-inch 1920 x 2560, OLED, 500 nits

It is only a 60Hz panel, however, unlike some of the OLED screens now available, so it’s not quite as buttery smooth as some of the competition with fixed-screen displays. However, we have seen bendable OLED panels go well beyond 60Hz, with Corsair’s Xeneon Flex being perhaps one of the better examples of what’s possible with the tech in terms of refresh rate at least.

The real party trick, however, is that fold, and how it incorporates into the design of the device. Namely, this isn’t technically one product. It’s a laptop, an all-in-one PC, and a tablet, depending on how you configure it. In the rear of the unit, there’s a kickstand that you can fold out to turn the Foldable into a pure 17-inch screen. You can then use the keyboard-trackpad combo to operate it like a standard desktop PC. Or alternatively, drop that kickstand, and convert it into a 17-inch tablet instead.

Create a slight bend in the screen and place it on your desk, then attach the keyboard to it (via the power of magnetism), and you’ve turned it into a laptop. Interestingly, with laptop mode HP has some nifty software installed that detects the keyboard’s position, and adjusts the screen size and resolution accordingly, depending on where you place the keyboard, which is pretty neat.

Rotation is supported as well: you can rotate the entire unit horizontally, one way or the other, and the display will twist to the correct orientation accordingly (although bear in mind that kickstand only works one way). In portrait mode, however, you are limited to one orientation.

That is mildly awkward, as this does place one of the only two USB-C ports on the top-left of the display. If you plug in the included USB dock on the bottom-right side of the screen, then your only option, if you want power in as well, is to have the cable trailing out of the top-left of the display, which looks pretty ghastly.

And it’s the ports that are the most frustrating to deal with. As standard, HP does include a USB hub with the foldable, but otherwise, you only get two USB-C Thunderbolt ports on here and nothing else. That’d be fine on a super-thin, small form factor device, but the Foldable is quite thick at 0.85cm, as that’s necessary to house all of that internal hardware.

Then we get to the keyboard. It’s small, foldable, with fairly standard keys that feel okay touch-wise. It has a trackpad, a small amount of Spectre branding on there, and a soft-touch leather cover. It connects only via Bluetooth and has a 330-hour battery life. You can charge it wirelessly off the display (when it’s fully on the device), but otherwise you’re stuck with a proprietary charging cable instead.

HP also reckons it should automatically pair with the Foldable 17 as well, but we consistently found that to be a weak point of the unit, particularly after restarting Windows, or letting the keyboard battery go flat. The one saving grace is you can magnetically stick the keyboard on the display, leave it there, and close the device without worry.

Design: 3.5 / 5

HP Spectre Foldable 17: Perfomance

Fine for light usage
Gaming and heavy productivity isn't possible

So, the design side of the equation, except for a few minor or indeed more major pitfalls depending on your perspective, is pretty okay to be fair. There are a few foibles, particularly with the keyboard and placement of ports, but generally speaking, disregarding the price, the HP Foldable is an awesome product.

However, coming to its performance, this is where things take a turn for the worse. Now let’s be clear, you have to look at this with that price in mind: $5,000 is no small sum, particularly for a laptop like this.

I took it for a spin, benchmarking it across all manner of tests, just to see how the Foldable would perform. My test conditions were strict, and it was plugged in, and on the high-performance power plan in Windows, with all of the latest updates applied, and chipset/drivers installed. I ran a number of tests, including Crossmark, Geekbench 6.2.1, Blender, and some limited gaming benchmarks as well.

Now, Intel’s integrated Iris graphics has come a long way, but it’s still nowhere near the calibre of the Alchemist architecture found in the Arc graphics cards. It’s just not going to be one of the best gaming laptops, and that’s fine, it’s not meant to be. However, when you’re spending $5,000 you do expect a modicum of performance.

In Geekbench 6.2.1 the Foldable scored 2,210 in single-core and 6,635 in multi-core. By comparison, the Huawei Matebook D 16 scored 2,605 in single-core and 12,568 in multi-core. That’s double the multi-threaded performance in comparison, from a laptop that clocks in at 25% of the price. The Foldable did have a slight edge when it came to CrystalDiskMark clocking in at 6,739MB/s for reads and 4,524MB/s for writes (sequential), but then we came to the gaming, or lack thereof.

No matter what I tried, not one single benchmark would complete. In 3DMark Wildlife Extreme and Extreme Unlimited (tests designed for mobile gaming), the Foldable didn’t meet the minimum requirements, and Solar Bay (mobile ray tracing) was the same. I also tried Borderlands 3 and Total War: Warhammer III, on their lowest settings, and despite making it to the main menu, neither game would load the benchmark without crashing.

Blender performance was pretty dire too, at 26.81 for scene one, 17.14 for scene two, and 11.69 for scene three – less than half the performance of our comparative Huawei Matebook D 16. Likewise, Crossmark also got a pummelling across all four results, with scores ranging anywhere between 30-40% worse than the £1,200 Huawei notebook.

Clearly, when it comes to PC games this HP device isn’t going to be as capable as any of the best gaming desktops out there right now. Something like a dedicated gaming PC packing an Nvidia RTX 4080 Super, and maybe Intel Core i9-14900K, is obviously going to run rings around the Foldable 17.

However, the problem goes beyond this, as you could literally go out right now, and spend $3,500 to pick up a PC with a Ryzen 9 7900X, RTX 4070 Super, 64GB of DDR5 RAM, a 2TB PCIe 4.0 SSD, and a 32-inch 4K OLED screen, and still have $1,500 left over to get a good laptop. Or alternatively, if all you want is a powerhouse laptop with a stunning screen, you could spend $2,500 on something like an Asus Zenbook Pro 16X OLED and save yourself a ton of cash while getting way, way better performance levels.

If all you care about is streaming content on Netflix, or doing some light document work, and browsing the web, the HP Spectre Foldable is more than capable of that. But then, so is practically every laptop at every price point, even the budget ones, and for that crazy four-figure investment, you should expect more.

Performance: 1.5 / 5

HP Spectre Foldable 17: Battery life

Solid 11-hour battery life

For battery life, the HP Spectre Foldable performed well enough and pretty much met our expectations across the board. It wasn’t phenomenal by any means, but lasted a full day of working remotely, with wireless and Bluetooth devices connected to it.

As standard, the Foldable comes with a 6-cell 94.3Wh Li-ion polymer battery and is rated in its folded mode, with keyboard attached, at around 12.5 hours, which is roughly what I saw during my time testing.

If you detach the keyboard entirely and run the Foldable as a display, that time does drop, as you’re effectively enabling more pixels to be active as you are running a higher resolution – but otherwise, it’s still fairly consistent in that regard.

HP also has fast charging support on the Foldable as well, and with any 100W USB-C charger, you’ll get around 50% charge in 40 to 45 minutes, with a full charge taking a little over two hours in my testing.

Battery life: 4 / 5

Should you buy the HP Spectre Foldable 17?

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First reviewed June 2024

Dell Latitude 7030 Rugged Extreme tablet review

6:32 pm | May 31, 2024

Author: admin | Category: Computers Gadgets Pro | Tags: Dell Latitude, RAM | Comments: Off

Having tested out a number of the best rugged tablets, we've always enjoyed Dell's durable devices. For us, the Dell Latitude Rugged series remain top contenders for anyone who needs a robust tablet for outdoor use. So, we put the Dell Latitude 7030 Rugged Extreme to the test to see how this hybrid tablet-laptop with detachable keyboard performs under pressure.

Dell Latitude Rugged 7030 Tablet — (Image credit: Collin Probst // Future)

Dell Latitude 7030 Rugged Extreme: Unboxing and First Impressions

While the box is pretty basic, once I got past the packaging, I immediately noticed the compact durability I had in my hands. The 10.1-inch form factor does take a moment to get used to, as it is pretty tiny. But once I got into setting things up in settings and using this to get some work done, I stopped feeling like it was a limited device but rather a massive computer eloquently crammed into a niche format.

For those on the go outdoors, working on a job site, out for days at a time, or even if you need something rugged for another reason, this laptop might be what you are looking for. Frequently, if you need a device that you can take to rugged places, you will be moving in and out of that place. Having a highly portable, smaller device that can still get the job done with ease computing-wise is a brilliant move in those situations.

While the size is small, the heft and rigidity of the Latitude 7030 are still very much noticeable. Right away, when I grabbed the handle of this laptop/tablet, I was thrilled to feel like I could swing this computer around by the handle without any issue. This device is reinforced in the corners, covers all the ports and cameras, and has a nice coating around the edges, protecting it from scuffs or damage.

Dell Latitude 7030 Rugged Extreme: Design and Build Quality

Specs

Processor: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260U

RAM: Up to 32GB LPDDR5

Storage: Up to 2TB NVMe SSD

Display: 10.1-inch FHD (1920 x 1200) outdoor-readable, 1000 nits brightness

Operating System: Windows 11 Pro

Battery: Dual removable batteries (up to 18 Wh each)

Ports: USB-C 3.2 (Thunderbolt 4 Optional), USB-A 3.2, microSD slot,

Connectivity: 5G, GPS, Wi-Fi 6E with Dual Band Support, FirstNet, Bluetooth

Weight: 2.2 lbs

The more I looked at this laptop-tablet hybrid, the more areas for mounting and modular swapping I noticed. The Latitude 7030 Rugged has an entire ecosystem of accessories that can be added and removed anytime to help customize the tablet to your needs.

These accessories range from the handle itself to a hand strap for ease of holding, the stylus, an external battery charger (as opposed to charging via the laptop, this charges the hot-swappable batteries so you can keep the tablet on the go), a magnetic mount, a kickstand, shoulder straps, vehicle docks, and chargers, and the detachable keyboard.

You can create whatever working machine you need through these accessories, let alone the modular portion of the computer's optional I/O bay. You can outfit this bay to fit another USB-A, an RJ-45 jack, a barcode scanner, or a universal audio jack. Lastly, you can utilize the programmable physical buttons to launch applications, run programs, control features, and do things of that nature.

Along the side are some covered ports for the various IOs that come standard, along with the customizable port. On the back live are the hot-swappable battery bays, the power button, an optional fingerprint reader, a SmartCard reader for authentication methods, a flash, the rear camera, and VESA mounting points. You can find the front-facing camera on the front top of the device, along with an IR Camera. You can find four programmable buttons and the docking connector at the bottom of the device.

Dell Latitude 7030 Rugged Extreme: In use

While I am not a first responder, trekking up a mountainside, working a job site, or wearing a hard hat where I work, I was able to imagine just how helpful this tablet might be to those who are. Customizing a computer to complement your work rather than molding your way of working around the device's limitations is excellent. The included front and rear-facing cameras allow for, for example, a construction site's general contractor to take photos of progress or areas that need to be addressed directly on their device without pulling out a camera or personal phone.

For first responders, the ability to mount this computer to their cruiser or truck and connect to FirstReady net for reliable coverage that first responders use is not only helpful but vital.

Sure, you can get a lot of these features on any number of other devices, but with this rugged tablet, you get all of that in a compact and discrete 10.1" tablet that you can hot swap features with, swap out batteries to keep going, and even un-mount from any docking station to take with you while you move around.

Dell Latitude Rugged 7030 Tablet: Final verdict

If you need a laptop that is as mobile and active as you are, the Latitude 7030 might be the perfect device for you, especially after you customize it to fit your needs beyond what the base model offers. Dell has numerous software features that I didn't get a chance to mention that make the overall experience of this tablet feel much more desktop-like than tablet-like, which is perfect for those who need a tried and true version of their trusty Windows 11 Pro to get their job done.

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Asus ExpertBook BR1204F review

2:23 pm | May 17, 2024

Author: admin | Category: Computers Gadgets Pro | Tags: CPU, OS, RAM | Comments: Off

Asus ExpertBook BR1204F: 30-second review

Specs

CPU: Intel® Processor N1000, 0.8 GHz (up to 3.4 GHz, 4 cores)
Graphics: Intel® UHD Graphics
RAM: 8GB DDR5 onboard (Max up to 16GB)
Storage: 128GB UFS, expandable via 1x M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0x4 slot
Rear Ports: Not specified
Front Ports: 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (supports display/power delivery), 1x USB 2.0 Type-C, 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, 1x HDMI 1.4, 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack, 1x RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) Dual band 2*2 + Bluetooth® 5.2 Wireless Card
Audio: Audio by Dirac, built-in speakers, built-in array microphone, Cortana support
Camera: 720p HD camera with privacy shutter, 13.0M world-facing camera
Size: 12.2-inch touchscreen, WUXGA (1920 x 1200) 16:10, glossy display with Corning Gorilla® Glass
OS installed: Windows 11 Pro Education
Accessories: Optional MPP 2.0 garaged stylus

The Asus ExpertBook BR1204F is a robust and flexible laptop specifically designed for educational facilities. It provides students and teachers with workstations that meet standard academic course criteria while allowing easy upgrades and repairs.

From the ground up, this laptop is crafted with its intended audience in mind, resulting in a functional, if slightly unexciting, design. We've tested out loads of the best student laptops, and unlike many sleek modern devices with high-end CPUs, GPUs, and storage, this Asus model offers a more traditional word processing-focused approach, at least on first look.

The Intel Processor N200 easily handles Windows 11 Pro for Education and standard word processing applications. It even supports applications like Tinkercad without issues, making it one of the best laptops for engineering students and 3D modellers - but only if your needs are pretty simple or you're just starting out. While Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Lightroom can run, performance could be enhanced with a slight HD and RAM upgrade from our review unit.

While it looks like a traditional laptop, the BR1204F features a flip-over design that sees the keyboard flip under the screen, transforming the machine into a tablet and very capable creative tool. It features an outstanding touch screen protected by Gorilla Glass, ideal for less delicate students. Apps such as Microsoft's garage project Sketch360 and the native drawing app function smoothly.

Overall, this machine is designed with a focus on education. For educational-based fun and games, it performs well, though it's not intended for video or image editing. However, some graphics and creative applications are feasible with its flip screen design. It's a well-made, and designed educational tool, with straightforward maintenance requiring just a few tools.

Asus ExpertBook BR1204F: Introduction

The Asus ExpertBook BR1204F is a laptop specifically designed for education as part of Asus's Education product line. Consequently, many high-end features typically promoted are not the focus here. The Intel N200 CPU and standard Intel graphics are sufficient for office applications and academic study, rather than multimedia playback or overly distracting games.

The machine is tailored to meet classroom demands, equipped with Windows 11 Pro for Education, a stylus, and a flip screen design, enabling students to use it as a screen, tablet, or laptop, offering versatility.

When used with Microsoft Teams, the whiteboard feature is invaluable, allowing students to interact with the class by drawing directly on the board without leaving their seats. Class materials and formative and summative feedback can be easily distributed through the Teams Classroom environment.

Of course, the classroom is just part of what an education laptop needs to address. With decent battery life in use and standby mode, the system has enough power to last through a day's worth of lessons between charges. Charging is quick via a standard USB Type-C connector, and the machine offers a good array of other connection options for connecting devices such Lego Mindstorms, 3D printers, Laser Engravers and networks.

One of the most appealing features for education is the ease of maintenance, with a five-point procedure for maintaining, repairing, and upgrading, making it quick and easy for any IT technician or anyone with basic IT hardware skills.

The Asus ExpertBook BR1204F is fully geared toward education, and in that environment, the choice of hardware makes complete sense. Outside that world, the limited storage space and processing power might be restrictive.

Asus ExpertBook BR1204F: Price & availability

The ExpertBook BR1204F is designed for education and is part of the Asus Education Solution program. For more information on purchasing the machine please visit your local education supplier.

Price: 4/5

Asus ExpertBook BR1204F: Design & build

The laptop's size is compact, measuring 297mm x 213mm x 22mm and weighing 1.47kg, making it easy to carry or fit into most bags or backpacks. Its relatively flat shape allows easy stacking of several BR1204Fs in a secure cupboard or custom computer stand.

Designed for classroom use by students, the laptop’s overall construction is tough, though not to the standards of a tough book, so it will withstand knocks and far more abuse than most but will not survive submersion in water or drops from significant heights.

The robust construction is evident when picking up the laptop, as it feels more solid than similar general-use laptops. Aside from the stylus integrated into the case design, there are no protective doors or components that can be easily dislodged. Additionally, access to the inner electronics is secured by cross-head screws to prevent young engineers from making hardware alterations in class.

Once the lid is lifted, the robust build is clear, with large, thick monitor hinges designed to be extremely strong. If a student wants to walk around with the laptop open, held by the monitor, it should withstand this handling, although it is obviously not ideal.

The general layout includes a small touchpad, a keyboard, and a 12.2-inch monitor. While the touchpad and keyboard are standard, the monitor stands out as a full touch screen toughened with Gorilla Glass, making it more resilient in a classroom.

The laptop’s left and right sides feature connection ports, including 1x RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet, HDMI 1.4, USB 2.0 Type-C, USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, and the stylus on the left, and USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (supporting display/power delivery), USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A, and a 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack on the right.

An interesting feature are the two cameras: one above the screen and another above the keyboard. This second world-facing camera can be used with applications like Microsoft Office Lens. When the keyboard is flipped under the screen the now rear-facing camera can scan documents or students' work with the preview appearing on screen, essentially think mobile phone. The captured image can then be cast to a whiteboard or stored for portfolio work.

The flip screen means that the laptop can be used as a touch screen tablet or part open can be used as a stand so the laptop can sit on a desk as a handy screen, enabling class materials to be cast during presentations and the Teams Whiteboard feature to be used by the entire class for interactive sessions.

Using the laptop reveals more to its design compared to standard off-the-shelf machines, with features updated to ensure better functionality within a classroom environment.

The final aspect of the design is crucial for education IT engineers. The BR1204F is modular, meaning it can be purchased as is and expanded as needed for each intended use. Our review unit was suitable for most office applications, but with upgraded RAM and storage, it could edit HD footage and images. More importantly, the modular design simplifies maintenance.

The Panel, I/O ports, Keyboard, Thermal Module, and Battery are all quickly accessible, serviceable, and replaceable. Unlike other laptops, where removing these parts can be time-consuming and delicate, requiring specialist intervention, the modular design of the BR1204F simplifies the process significantly.

Design: 5/5

Asus ExpertBook BR1204F: Features

The BR1204F is designed from the outset as a durable and versatile laptop, tablet, and screen for educational environments. It may not be the best rugged laptop we've tried, but built for its intended use, it's more durable than most devices of its size and specifications, meeting MIL-STD 810H US military durability standards, with a fingerprint-resistant finish, full rubber bumper, and spill-resistant keyboard.

The display is a 12.2-inch touchscreen, protected by scratch-resistant Corning Gorilla Glass for durability, with a 16:10 aspect ratio and TÜV Rheinland certification for low blue-light emissions.

Standard storage options are relatively small at 128 GB of integrated UFS 2.1 storage, ideal for educational environments where multiple students use the same machine and files are stored in the cloud. For additional storage, there is an expansion slot for up to 1TB. The laptop also features advanced AI-powered noise-cancellation technology to isolate background noise during video calls, enhancing call quality.

Connectivity is well-catered for, with Wi-Fi 6E and 4G LTE ensuring fast connections for online learning, whether in the classroom or remote. An essential feature for tablet use is the inclusion of a garaged stylus, held on the left side of the machine and charged while docked, providing a more accurate tool than a finger for using and drawing on the touchscreen.

Beyond student use, the Asus BR1204F's design is fully serviceable, with a modular design allowing easy access and upgrades to internal components.

Features: 4/5

Asus ExpertBook BR1204F: Performance

Benchmarks

Crystal Disk Read: 1709.58MB/s
Crystal Disk Write: 923.20MB/s
GeekBench CPU Single: 2754
GeekBench CPU Multi: 1220
GeekBench Compute: 3891
PC Mark: 2824
CineBench CPU Multi: 2300
CineBench CPU Single: 794
Fire Strike Graphics: 1204
Fire Strike Physics: 379
Fire Strike Combined: 379
Time Spy Overall: 430
Time Spy Graphics: 376
Time Spy CPU: 2444
Wild Life: N/A
Windows Experience: 8.0

Ordinarily, processing power is a primary concern for any computer, but within an educational environment, you just need a machine that works, runs the necessary apps, is durable, and can be fixed when the inevitable happens. With the BR1204F, Asus has provided exactly that, and if more is needed, the RAM and storage can be upgraded.

In use for all Microsoft Office applications, the BR1204F works smoothly, handling word processing and all the features of Teams with ease. Most importantly, the connection to a wireless network is robust, and the ability to link to the wired network as a backup adds resilience compared to some alternatives.

Outside of office apps, the lack of storage at 128GB is somewhat restrictive, allowing only small additional apps to be installed before running low on space. A base of 256GB would have been better, given the size of the Windows installation.

The integration with Teams is the major advantage here, with classroom apps enabling interactive sessions, and the touchscreen allowing all class members to engage with the lesson. The touchscreen also adds flexibility to the laptop’s use, and while drawing apps are not super quick, they are fluid enough to be enjoyable.

The benchmark results for the Asus BR1204F highlight its capabilities in handling educational tasks. The 3DMark Fire Strike graphics score of 1109 and a combined score of 379 suggest it can handle basic graphics and interactive classroom applications smoothly. Time Spy's overall score of 430, with a graphics score of 376 and CPU score of 2444 highlights its ability to run multi-threaded tasks, ideal for applications like Tinkercad and Lego Mindstorms.

Cinebench R23's multi-core score of 2300 and single-core score of 794 indicate moderate performance for multitasking and single-threaded applications like Microsoft Office, so just running one possibly two applications at a time is advisable. GeekBench 5 scores, with 2754 for multi-core and 1220 for single-core, underscore its ability to handle general computing tasks and most educational software well. The CrystalDiskMark read and write speeds of 1709.58 MB/s and 923.20 MB/s respectively ensure quick data access and saving, beneficial for handling large files and applications.

PCMark 10's score of 2824 and a Windows Experience Index score of 8 reflect the laptop's robust performance for productivity tasks, again highlighting all Office applications, making it well-suited for extensive use with Microsoft Teams and classroom features.

Performance: 3/5

Should you buy the Asus ExpertBook BR1204F?

The Asus ExpertBook BR1204F is a solidly built, education-focused laptop offering a robust and versatile solution for students. Its durable design, coupled with a flexible touchscreen and easy maintenance, makes it ideal for the demands of a classroom environment. While the base model's storage is limited, the device's modular design allows for easy upgrades, enhancing its longevity and utility in education. Overall, it's a superb educational tool that prioritises function and durability over high-end specs, making it a worthwhile investment for schools and educational institutions.

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